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AQ - time to gamble? AQ - time to gamble?

02-22-2015 , 10:31 PM
Hi All,

Hand from this weekend. I haven't been at table long so limited reads. Villain doesn't play many hands (was short stacked after a bad beat) but has built up to $125 stack. He built his way back by shoving A10 from BB and another hand that I can't remember.

Hero: Image is a tight player, lost a hand earlier in the night that has crippled me chip wise. I only have $75 left so that's the effective stack.

Villain: BB in this hand. See reads above

Preflop: Hero has AQ suited from MP. 2 limps and hero limps as I haven't raised a hand in an hour and button, SB have tendency to raise preflop. Button limps, SB limps and BB bets $12 ($10 in pot already). Both limpers call and now there is $42 in the pot preflop. $12 is a standard bet in this table however it usually takes the pot down preflop or only gets one caller. Rare to have multiple callers. Hero???

I'm thinking of either shoving or folding in this hand. I feel like both early limpers aren't strong and would likely fold. Button and SB raise probably about 10% of the time so they can't have much if they just limped although both players rarely limp in so they must have medium strength hands. The only person I'm worried about is the villain who I've seen shove with A10 and other medium strength hands. That being said I saw what happened when he was crippled and had $25 left preflop and then $45 preflop. I put villain on 88+, AJ+. Question is, would he tighten up now that he has about $125 behind.

I feel like if I shove I'm either flipping against a pp (likely), up against AK, AQ or AJ of which I only dominate AJ and dominated by AK, QQ+. What would you do and why?

Spoiler:
Thinking about it now in hindsight the dead money in the pot maybe makes this play profitable if I am flipping which is what my gut tells me although my gut has been wrong a couple of times which is why I'm crippled in chips.


2nd scenario.

Let's pretend I simply call this hand. The flop came KJ4 rainbow. Button and SB also called so the pot is $62. SB cbets $30. Folds to hero where I would? SPR is under 1, I have an A out that may win and a 10 gutshot for the nut straight. My Q may still be good although leading into 5 players is interesting by villain.
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02-22-2015 , 11:34 PM
Allin seems like a good squeeze play here. I personally would reload to Max buyin when possible in order to avoid this type of situations.
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02-22-2015 , 11:38 PM
Raise this when the action is on you, limping AQs from MP makes no sense, especially with a short-stack.

With limp ?fold vs. shove you are exactly gambling. folding wastes the equity you had in a strong hand, but I don't see that shoving for 37BB into a 21BB pot against 2 other players really puts you in a better than break-even scenario.
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02-23-2015 , 12:52 AM
rebuy
raise preflop 100%
as played, this is an easy shove. decent amount of dead money, FE, and a solid hand dominated only by AK really
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02-23-2015 , 01:56 AM
I would only limp/shove if you knew someone in late position would raise a huge percentage of the time. Here you got lucky unless BB is a super tight player. Shove and take a nap before scooping or reloading to a full stack.
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02-23-2015 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tightywhity
Hi All,

Hand from this weekend. I haven't been at table long so limited reads. Villain doesn't play many hands (was short stacked after a bad beat) but has built up to $125 stack. He built his way back by shoving A10 from BB and another hand that I can't remember.

Hero: Image is a tight player, lost a hand earlier in the night that has crippled me chip wise. I only have $75 left so that's the effective stack.

Villain: BB in this hand. See reads above

Preflop: Hero has AQ suited from MP. 2 limps and hero limps as I haven't raised a hand in an hour and button, SB have tendency to raise preflop. Button limps, SB limps and BB bets $12 ($10 in pot already). Both limpers call and now there is $42 in the pot preflop. $12 is a standard bet in this table however it usually takes the pot down preflop or only gets one caller. Rare to have multiple callers. Hero???

I'm thinking of either shoving or folding in this hand. I feel like both early limpers aren't strong and would likely fold. Button and SB raise probably about 10% of the time so they can't have much if they just limped although both players rarely limp in so they must have medium strength hands. The only person I'm worried about is the villain who I've seen shove with A10 and other medium strength hands. That being said I saw what happened when he was crippled and had $25 left preflop and then $45 preflop. I put villain on 88+, AJ+. Question is, would he tighten up now that he has about $125 behind.

I feel like if I shove I'm either flipping against a pp (likely), up against AK, AQ or AJ of which I only dominate AJ and dominated by AK, QQ+. What would you do and why?

Spoiler:
Thinking about it now in hindsight the dead money in the pot maybe makes this play profitable if I am flipping which is what my gut tells me although my gut has been wrong a couple of times which is why I'm crippled in chips.


2nd scenario.

Let's pretend I simply call this hand. The flop came KJ4 rainbow. Button and SB also called so the pot is $62. SB cbets $30. Folds to hero where I would? SPR is under 1, I have an A out that may win and a 10 gutshot for the nut straight. My Q may still be good although leading into 5 players is interesting by villain.
What game are you playing?

If there's a lot a positional PF raises at this table you limp is fine if you intend to limp/raise AI. Otherwise this is a spot to raise normal PF and likely jam all flops.

As played this is an easy jam.

Edit: you need to understand the difference between a tilty playing jamming a short stack into a weak field with A10 and a normal stack raising from the blinds. Have you seen the V raise from the blinds before?
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02-23-2015 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Naked

Edit: you need to understand the difference between a tilty playing jamming a short stack into a weak field with A10 and a normal stack raising from the blinds. Have you seen the V raise from the blinds before?
Haven't seen villain with an actual stack yet as his bad beat happened the 2nd or 3rd hand I was there. It's a 1/2 game and I'd say the pot is raised about 20% of the time from the two people between primary villain and I.
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