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11-05-2014 , 10:19 AM
I got AQ in three spots today, all felt normal but I'm curious as to whether you all think I'm overvaluing, undervaluing, (or something else) AQ in each spot.

2/3, playing 5 handed on a must move table:

Hero covers table, Villain in particular has about 200~ in each situation:

Hand 1) Open AQo from UTG+1 to 9. Raise Sizes have been relaxed due to shorthanded play and some short stacks shoving on the standard 5-6x open. SB Reraises to 40. I snap fold AQ face up. [Villain shows hand]

Hand 2) UTG limps, folds to SB who raises to 9, I have AQ in the BB and reraise to 25 - UTG folds, SB calls. SB is a thinking player, but has been playing a bit loose (more loose than 5 handed warrants, in my opinion - Saw K8o raise in early position and take down a hand with 2 pair by showdown).
Flop AQ6. Pot 48 after rake.

Villain leads for 25, I raise to 65. Villain flat calls. Pot 188.

Turn: T Villain bets 30, I ship. Villain looks over the board a few times, calls off remaining stack of 91 more.

Hand 3) UTG+1 (80 stack) raises to 16, UTG+2 calls (110 stack), Hero on BTN with AQo. Flat, raise, fold? UTG+1 has only raised AJo in the entire session, might be very card dead but I don't know UTG+2's range, he's re-bought for 100 4 times, each time losing with what I thought was very unlucky runouts (set under set, flush under flush, and AKo losing to A9s [I binked an A96 board in position]). Position leads me to want to raise, but the stack sizes make me not even want to get involved, especially when the standard raise size for the past few orbits has been 9-10.
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11-05-2014 , 10:51 AM
1 depnds on image, stacks and vill, fold is ok or i might just gii here
2 i like the way you played it but raise flop larger
3 flat ducy
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11-05-2014 , 10:52 AM
1. Why are you showing your hand? Don't. That's an ego thing (in my opinion) like "look how good I am I can fold AQo."

2. The stack sizes are pretty awkward here. SPR is 3.5 on the flop, you have Top 2, are the PFR and V is leading into you. I would just ship this flop and pray he doesn't have one of the 3 combos of 66. Think about it, you lol-minraised him from $25 to $65. The pot is now $140 and he has to call $40 more, so you are giving him 3.5:1 direct odds. He's not folding any draw here. You can't raise to a meaningful amount that leaves a normal sized bet on the river so just shove.

When someone is showing interest in the pot and you have a monster you should be getting as much money in the middle as possible. Not a barely 2x raise.
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11-05-2014 , 11:55 AM
Agreed. The raise on hand 2 was way too small and you were giving him great odds.

Also I never show hands. You are not only giving that villain info but the entire table!

Flat call on hand three.
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11-05-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Oddhalo
3 flat ducy
Why are we flatting #3? I understand the SPR's will be between 1.3 for V1 and 2 for V2 which is an auto-stack off *when* we hit, but we are only hitting 1/3 of the time and have no FE. Absent reads and the inability to use position to our advantage, I would think AQo is marginally ahead if not behind an UTG+1 and UTG+2 open/call range. But maybe I am giving them too much credit absent reads.

Hero says normal open is $9-$10 and shorty is opening to $16. To me, that's saying "I have a monster and I am shipping the flop."
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11-05-2014 , 11:57 AM
Hand 1: Fold unless SB is very aggro preflop, in which case shove. Villain can easily be doing it with a pair under QQ but the raise size makes stacks too short to stick around unless villain has a lot of middle/low pairs and some pure bluffs. Don't show your folding such a good hand unless you have some meta game goal in mind.

Hand 2: Looks good except flop bet size. I would raise flop to $75/$80 and just ship it against a villain who likes to chase.

Hand 3: Meh. Depending on what ranges I put villains on I might raise, flat or fold. Given the EP raise to $16 by villain with a tight range and $80 stack, I think I opt for a fold. Far too easy to catch one pair and be pot committed with the second best hand.
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11-05-2014 , 12:52 PM
With villain's having $200 stacks, any raise I make with TP type hands (such as AQ) is going to be to $20+ so I can stack off postflop with TP.

Hand 1: Hate the small raise, love the fold, hate the show.

Hand 2:

Passive me just calls the small raise. It's for a small percentage of stacks, we'll be in position on raiser, we have a hand that can play well multiway (if limper comes along) or HU, we'd have to probably fold to a 4bet.

I probably just flat the flop. We can easily play for stacks by the river if we slowplay. The only danger in slowplaying is that a scare card could come that kills our action. Otherwise, I think this guy could have air a lot or a weak hand that is looking to see if they can steal the pot, so I let him think he can. But I don't hate the flop raise (ETA: although as others have said, raise more).

Easy ship on the turn at this point with remaining stacks, draws, etc.

Hand 3: I typically fold AQ to most raises, although obviously stack size / opponent / situation dependent. The raiser is short, so if he can spew off a shortstack, then I *might* consider continuing. However, the raiser also seems tight, and is raising big in EP, which trumps everything, and makes this a snap fold for me.

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11-06-2014 , 09:03 AM
I showed AQ to villain because he folded AK once to a 3bet of mine face up and said I owed him one. I dont mind returning the favor for a rec. player. He plays often enough for me to recognize him, but I don't recall seeing him on cash tables much (played a few daily tournaments with him).

Bump,
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