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AQ makes 2nd pair and is getting some action AQ makes 2nd pair and is getting some action

11-19-2018 , 11:13 PM
1/2NL effective stack 250.

V1 is a MAWG who hasnt done much of note this session, other than straddle the button to 7 at every chance. The Chiefs/Rams game is on so I have succumbed to my more basic instincts.

V2 is a LAG raising pre way too often.

V1 open limps in EP. V2 in MP makes it 7. Hero 3! to 25 from the CO with AQo. V1 calls and V2 folds.

pot (50) KQ9r. V1 leads 30. Hero shrug calls.

pot (110) KQ98 and now a flush draw is possible. V2 checks, hero checks.

pot (110) KQ986 flush draw bricks. V bets 40. Hero?

Textbook call or exploitable fold? Im open to thoughts on all streets.
AQ makes 2nd pair and is getting some action Quote
11-19-2018 , 11:30 PM
Textbook call given the price, although I don't expect to be good here more than 50% - lots of 2-pairs in his range trying to get value from AK/AQ.

Is he one of those people that c-bet way too often?

Also, your Vs switch places during the hand (and I'm pretty sure thats not allowed), so I'm confused which one you're actually playing against on the river.
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11-19-2018 , 11:44 PM
yeah you're getting a good price here but this depends on V1/what type player he is.

What could he call your 3bet with after limping (passive play), and then lead out on flop with (aggressive play), all OOP?

With MAWG this is AK alot. They limp AK preflop, then call raises. Then bet when it hits. Then talk themselves into "be careful/3bettor has AA/KK/QQ) on the turn. Then small bet for value on river after turn goes check-check. If this guy fits this mold it's easy fold.
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11-19-2018 , 11:45 PM
whoops its V1 the whole way. V2 raise/folded pre.
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11-20-2018 , 12:04 AM
Calling, because it is close. And I gain value in seeing what is presumably is weak leading range.
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11-20-2018 , 12:07 AM
This is one you could fold with a better read but for those kind of odds you need a good read. You should expect to lose way more then win. Getting just short of 4-1 on your money you don't need to win very often to break even.
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11-21-2018 , 12:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadJ
This is one you could fold with a better read but for those kind of odds you need a good read.
This was pretty much my exact thought. I didn't have enough of a read on this guy to make the fold. Against a player who I have dialed in, I could have made this fold on the flop, as I only have 2nd pair with no redraw. When I called flop and checked back turn, I felt that I had to call down on good rivers, and this was one. My only thought was after the hand if 2PTK pair is a good enough hand to call down 2 streets vs. an unknowns range who basically cold called a 3-bet preflop out of position. This board had enough draws on it that bricked out I felt I could get away with it.

results:

Spoiler:
I call, he shows J9s and MHIG
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11-21-2018 , 03:45 PM
Leads are so pathetically weak in general. Just destroys there checking range too.
AQ makes 2nd pair and is getting some action Quote

      
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