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04-13-2015 , 09:12 PM
Hero - 40 something long haired hippie look. Good Winning image. Playing a little tighter than normal for me TAG.

Villain 50 something aging biker. Heavy tattooed big belly. biker stereotype to a T. Loose and can be aggressive at times. Chase any draw including gut shots with eat wrong odds. Amassed a nice stack hitting a few of them draws. Played one hand with me earlier. I raised pf with AK followed by bet bet bet board run out of 7,7,3,3,6 he called me all the way with A,5b

Hand
Shorty open shoves in mp for 26
Villian cut off (375) calls
Hero bb (550ish) A,Qhh calls
Flop (79) A,Q,J rainbow
Hero leads for 50
Villian snap announces raise and slides out 80
Dealer has him correct to 100
Hero thinks for a minute then calls
Turn (279) 10
Hero checks
Villain snap shoves

Hero does?

90% of the time in this spot i 3! The pre flop shove. Shorty is shoving light and villain calls this light. With the extra 26 from villain I'm happy to flip against shorty and could very well be dominating shorty. Honestly no idea why i just flatted behind villain here. Brain fat maybe?

Anyways, Comments on all action are always appreciated.

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04-13-2015 , 10:03 PM
snap fold

Min raise, THEN a shove ... I'm OUT
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04-15-2015 , 06:31 PM
Not a lot of interest in this one. Must be more straight forward than I thought.

Everyone agree that pre I should be 3! ISO'ing shorty shove all the time with 26 dead money from villain's flat?

Anyway, on to results.

Hero folds.
Shorty shows a small pocket pair.
Villain tables Q,J for flopped bottom 2 pair.
River brings a K for A high straight on the board and they chop my 26 in in the main and villain gets my 100 from the side.

No way in hell I expected to see that.

Made sense later though as I learned more about his game over the next few hours. He ended up getting felted for ~250bb by 60 year old lady on a heater in the following hand.

Random raises pre to 10
Villain flats
Old lady calls from SB
Flop Q,3,8 rainbow
Lady leads for 15
Villain raises to 70
Lady calls
Turn brick
Lady leads for 125
Villain shoves ~ 400
Lady calls with Q,3
Villain tables AA
River brick

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04-15-2015 , 09:26 PM
I would have 3bet pre. As played, I re-raise his min-raise with intent to gii.

As played, fold on turn is fine -- terrible card.
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04-15-2015 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
I would have 3bet pre. As played, I re-raise his min-raise with intent to gii.

As played, fold on turn is fine -- terrible card.
This is pretty much it, with the 3b pre being optional based on more information. Flop though I'm 3bet gii. As played I snap fold turn and say nice hand when he shows his QJ.
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04-16-2015 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
I would have 3bet pre. As played, I re-raise his min-raise with intent to gii.

As played, fold on turn is fine -- terrible card.
What hands are we expecting to get value from by 3! his flop min raise? OOP this seems a dangerous board to bloat the pot.

I do agree with the others in 3 betting preflop, villain is likely raising while IP with dominating ranges.
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04-16-2015 , 06:30 AM
Got to 3bet as everybody been saying is free money just sitting out there. Plus ot makes it a lot easier to play post flop
As for flop what is he trying to rep?? Straight is most obvious but ppl over value there hands so much,can see so many hands that he thinks are great but we crush
AK,QJ ,AJ but he might be thinking hand like AT are good as well maybe even stuff like KQ,KJ,QT thinking that they got a lot off outs when really they are drawing pretry thin.
Is one of the main reasons I hate facing the minraise OOP.
Turn is just about the worst card in the deck. Is pretty hard to call the turn unless you got a decent read on player and even then will be difficult.
The villian could just be thinking about their hand and dont read the board and just bet cause well they got 2 pair in their mind.
Have to pretty much let it go and move on
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04-16-2015 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Floppinmynutsonyou
What hands are we expecting to get value from by 3! his flop min raise? OOP this seems a dangerous board to bloat the pot.
AJ, QJ, AT, AK, QK, JK -- all the junk he does this with that someone like him is not folding. I highly doubt he has a set -- we have blockers and he probably would have raised pre or done more than min-raise on this flop. If he has KT, so be it -- we have outs, and we should have 3bet.

BTW, OP, is this 1/2, 1/3, or 2/5?
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04-16-2015 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
AJ, QJ, AT, AK, QK, JK -- all the junk he does this with that someone like him is not folding. I highly doubt he has a set -- we have blockers and he probably would have raised pre or done more than min-raise on this flop. If he has KT, so be it -- we have outs, and we should have 3bet.

BTW, OP, is this 1/2, 1/3, or 2/5?
Sorry, forgot that very important detail.

This is 1/2 with 300 cap buy in

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04-16-2015 , 09:42 AM
vs this opponent I think the best play is to shove flop, hes not folding, and there are ALOT of hands that you are way ahead of. As played I think c/f turn is fine.
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