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12-31-2016 , 06:37 PM
Playing in a local 1-3 game. Opponents are pretty soft except main Villian who seems to be the table captain and is running really good. He's just catching everything by pushing with flush draws and str8 draws and keeps getting there. He is not afraid to semi bluff or bet into other players. His C-bet frequency is around 90% with a stack around 800 in a 300 max buy in. Super aggressive player.

Hero image is respectable given that we have only been there for about an hour and players are folding to bluffs/semi bluffs I'm making in position. Cards are terrible but I'm making it work. Stack is 360

3 way action hero is in the MP a serious fish is to my immediate right and the main Villian is in the CO. Fish limps to hero who bets 30 (to limit the field and for value) in this game a 30 dollar bet is my standard open with AQ
and Villian calls so does the fish.

Flop: K64 all spades ($94)

Fish checks, hero bets 60, Villian makes it 160 and fish folds. Hero does what...
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12-31-2016 , 06:41 PM
Fold or shove. I much prefer shove.
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12-31-2016 , 06:41 PM
Fold. Did not notice we had flopped all spades.

Let me check stacks.

Rip it. I would check flop though fwiw.
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12-31-2016 , 06:49 PM
Why are we checking flop? If a spade comes on the turn gonna be hard to get paid.
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12-31-2016 , 06:50 PM
I bet out in hopes of just buying the pot right there. Most 1-3 players are very timid when it comes to messing around with suited flops. After the fact I wish I would have checked though. I should probably make that my standard.
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12-31-2016 , 06:51 PM
Don't make it your standard. Just vs super aggressive players. It can be good. Because you have to jam at these stack depths too much with little fold equity
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12-31-2016 , 06:52 PM
Plus, the only reason I said fold is an option is if hero was thinking about just calling this flop.

Shove>>>>>>>folding>call
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12-31-2016 , 06:56 PM
You said he was table captain. Where does timid come into play in that equation?
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12-31-2016 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
You said he was table captain. Where does timid come into play in that equation?
Just generalizing the play for typical 1-3 players. It was a mistake to bet into this Villian.
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12-31-2016 , 07:05 PM
So should hero have pushed all in after he came over the top?
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12-31-2016 , 07:14 PM
I would have. Say we know he has a K. You have 9spade outs and 3 A outs. We are flipping against that and there is dead money in the pot. Not to mention FE and letting the table captain know there is a new sheriff in town. And his name is Reggie Hammond.

Spoiler:
bonus points if you know who Reggie Hammond is

Last edited by CowboyCold; 12-31-2016 at 07:21 PM.
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12-31-2016 , 07:24 PM
30 is too much for Vegas 1-3 under most any circumstance.

Bet flop, but all the bananas sizing means you have to shove now and lean on raw equity.
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12-31-2016 , 07:38 PM
Bombs away. 3! shove

Why so much pre? You want worse hands to call. I guess its fine if villains call a 10BB raise with AJ/AT. I'm not sure they do.
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12-31-2016 , 07:41 PM
Under normal circumstances 30 is bit overboard but as we can see we got two callers with it. If I don't raise big I'm this particular game I'm getting 5 way flops and AQ 5 way is not something I want to do.
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01-02-2017 , 02:20 PM
Not a fan of our seat position with the table captain close to our left.

Love the fact that you've correctly identified what type of raise size will most likely limit the field and yet still get you action at this table. With a stack of $360 I might even open to $35 (closer to 10% where we can then more comfortably stack off postflop).

I might check/shove this flop. I'm guessing the table captain will take a fairly wide stab at this, and then we'll see how fish reacts, and based on this we can then probably shove a decent amount of the time with both decent FE and decent equity. Donking also puts us in a terrible spot if captain calls (especially if we whiff turn) or raises.

As played, I think I probably fold as we're unlikely to get paid if we hit and I'm not convinced a reraise has much FE at this point.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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01-02-2017 , 02:27 PM
Cbetting was not a mistake. It is going to be profitable all on its own.

Need to ship at this point.

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01-02-2017 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Not a fan of our seat position with the table captain close to our left.

Love the fact that you've correctly identified what type of raise size will most likely limit the field and yet still get you action at this table. With a stack of $360 I might even open to $35 (closer to 10% where we can then more comfortably stack off postflop).

I might check/shove this flop. I'm guessing the table captain will take a fairly wide stab at this, and then we'll see how fish reacts, and based on this we can then probably shove a decent amount of the time with both decent FE and decent equity. Donking also puts us in a terrible spot if captain calls (especially if we whiff turn) or raises.

As played, I think I probably fold as we're unlikely to get paid if we hit and I'm not convinced a reraise has much FE at this point.

GcluelessNLnoobG
Agree so much with all of this.

Except the last sentence. If we jam and assume 0 FE, we need 36% equity for it to be profitable. If our ace is ever an out, we're well above 36%.
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01-02-2017 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay S
Except the last sentence. If we jam and assume 0 FE, we need 36% equity for it to be profitable. If our ace is ever an out, we're well above 36%.
Fair enough, but I"m still concerned we just faced a stack committing flop raise (which means we probably have little FE combined with often much less hand equity than we think).

If this guy can raise light / bluff raise in big pots, shoving is probably fine.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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