Live 2/2 hand: stacks 200. first orbit.

CO limps. SB raises to 14. Hero(BB) 3bets AQs to 40.
CO (passive fish) calls!! SB jams.
Hero???

SB is on the competent/laggier side, capable of 3betting a wide range. Yes, it is a 4bet, but it feels more like a 3bet/squeeze spot given the late positions and the strange cold-call of the CO.

pot-odds 160:440 = 36% (assuming the fish folds)
I think it was suited, but if it was not, does it change the decision. It feels pretty close...

Fold

If SB is competent this is a fold. Your 3 bet from the BB is pretty strong even if SB is pretty laggy and CO's flat call of a 3 bet is also strong. Even if CO is wider then he should be and SB is jamming for isolation the chance of your hand beating both of them isn't that good. You need CO to be a huge whale and SB to be willing to jam pretty light before AQ is good enough to play.

unless this guy is a maniac you gotta let this one go; 4! ranges are generally super nutted

My calculation suggests that I get 39% with AQs against a SB range including AQo+, AJs+ and 99+. So I'm fine with it.

But you might be right that he does 'never' have AJs.
Against AQ+, TT+ it is 35%.
AK, JJ+ drops to 32%

Actual hands turned out to be AKo for SB, while the CO open-folded his AKs for my lulz, preventing my triple-up

In hindsight, I always overestimate live players adapting to late position or blind-vs-blind play.
4bet is still a 4bet to most of them, regardless of the positions. The CO disposing of his AKs is just another confirmation of this.

No. CO should keep SB in line because we don't expect him to fold. Would be a rare SB who'd think this is a spot for a move.

There can be plenty of gii pre spots for AQ at action tables. This doesn't look like one of them.

After reading posts like this for a while, it would appear that I'm a nit. I'm folding here nearly always. To me, and as far as your equity goes, it matters whether or not it was suited.

There's no always and no never, but unless I've seen something in villain to indicate that he shows up here with his entire range, it's a clear and easy fold for me.

Despite the horrible result, I do like the 3bet pre.

As played fold. You might be flipping against the SB, but why risk it? Wait for a better spot.

easy fold, why are we 3betting to begin with when there's a fish behind you, just call
your goal is to hope to extract maximum value vs fish
not to win that lil bit amount of dead money preflop
if you do 3b, 3b to something like 30 to hope fish calls

i seriously doubt anybody will go isolating a fish oop without a hand and now he ship it in on you, it's super easy fold, his range is premiums and premiums only
i think your game plan is off the charts, maybe rethink a new game plan
fish = $$$
isolate fish, not isolate regs when fish has yet to act, never scare away a fish

Folding. Also think your 3 bet size is too small


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Interesting. Would totally agree if fish was a big calling station postflop. But it was a passive fit-or-fold guy.

So why would I let the limper in for cheap.
I am also way ahead of the LAG's SB opening range.

Raising to only 30 might help me get away vs jam. At 40 I was close to committed with the additional cold caller's money.

Result was not too horrible. Q high flop.
Why would I flip? maybe it is an overall +EV flip? Can't fold every time

Makes no sense at all. In position. Ahead of range.
If I bet any bigger, I am always commited.

Fold and nice hand. Could have gone a tad larger on the 3bet size but other than that good job with the 3bet.

NH, WP.

Yea this looks fine but fold now. Even with the dead money his shove is rarely anything but JJ+ AK. I will say that I'm calling pre here more than I'm 3betting. Obviously it depends how often villain is iso raising a limper oop but readless I'd be mostly flatting. He "should" have a pretty tight range isoing to 7x from oop and we get the added benefit of keeping the rec player in the pot if we flat.

The 3bet sizing is fine and I actually prefer it to a larger sizing. We're IP vs the isoer and this spot operates more as a 4bet vs 3bet than a 3bet vs open.

I don’t know what you mean by “pretty tight range” but if a passive fish limps the button I’m opening at least 20% of hands from the small blind.

Unless villain thinks you are a nit I think we have 33-36% here against SB depending on if he has any TT or AQs so it’s probably a fold.

This is a perfectly fine almost a must 3b. Give me a break you nits are so pathetic sometimes especially with regards to results. If sb just folded it would be all nh. Imagine not 3b AQ vs an obvious fish limping co and sb opening.

Size a little small but have to gii can't 3b/f these positions and 20% of our stack.

so hero has played with SB before?
as it first orbit or 2 I could go either way with AQs.
I am not folding but think a call is a little bit better than the 3b just so we can keep the CO (fish in).
as others have mentionded we want to be playing with him, yeah the reg could be raising with something crush but then we should keep him in and just let him own himself.
generally when we 3b he is going to dump a lot of his trash and keep playing a lot tighter/stronger range.
as for calling the all in, I would be folding this a lot more than often.
I personally think you convice yourself that he would shove with AK/JJ+ here but in general most players at these limits tend to shove preflop for 100bb a little bit of a tighter range.

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I think this is a fold. People do not 4bet jam light at 1/2 (2/2 in your case)

I mean you could make a case based on table dynamics but you said this is early in your session so I don't know how many inferences we can really make.

i actually don't like the 3bet sizing at all. to make this move with AQs we want to get folds a pretty decent amount of the time and at this price i think SB can at least flick in the call with their whole range and when CO flats they can sometimes also squeeze as we're considering here.

i think we should make it $60 force a fold from CO and fold to a shove. as played i think we should just fold, we're going to see the hand anyways when CO calls off the rest most likely so we're going to see 1 orbit into this table who is willing to stack off with garbage.

just sigh fold and tell dealer both hands pls

We have AQs and in position to the SB. Is him calling his entire range a bad thing?

In general no, if he is calling with Qx trash then great for us

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in general live 1-2 playerss 3bet and 4bet way, way less than was done on full tilt poker 24+2 3000 guaranteed back in the day. so much so that until you see someone who does 3 bet bluff or 4 bet bluff, aqsuited is a rather safe fold in that spot.

As mentioned, I know the SB quite well, and he is capable of 3betting me pretty light, down to 98s and even 76o on one occasion. 4bets are pretty rare in the game, however, but the SB vs BB situation made me think ranges were much wider, which might have been a small mistake.