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Angle Shooting? - Should floor have done something? Angle Shooting? - Should floor have done something?

02-14-2017 , 10:00 AM
I feel blessed that neither of these hands involved me or I probably would have let my mouth get the better of me. This happened in a 2/5 game in a smaller room here in Florida. The second incident, to me, seemed extremely underhanded...

Villain in these hands has approx $1.3k in front of him but is in for at least 3. I think other than when he's gotten up to go to the bathroom or get a beer I have yet to see him fold pre, regardless of action.

First hand in question he got to the river on a K23 flop, 45o on turn and river. First he leads out of turn on the river for $100 into a $350 pot. Immediately the other player in the hand says "ouch... are we chopping or did you get lucky?" The villain responds, "guess you'll have to call to find out!" Then proceeds to put on sunglasses and earbuds. The other player briefly goes into the tank, couldn't have been more than a minute due to the high hand clock and starts to assemble chips. The villain immediately tables one card, a K and goes "man!" before the dealer reaches out and says "he hasn't acted." The man removes the earbuds and says "oops! I thought he called my dang king." Floor is called and tells action to continue. Kid calls, guy rolls over a 6 and goes, "welp... I had a king."

Didn't think that one was as bad as the second incident.

Villain is involved with a new player at the table in a hand that gets to the river again. Massive pot, at least 1.5k as it was four ways until the river and got to heads up. Flop was JT7r, turn was another J and river was a K. The new player announces all in for approx $675. Villain goes into the tank (same routing with sunglasses and earbuds) before he reaches down into his bag and grabs a granola bar and his wallet. He starts fiddling around and says, "sorry guys, big decision here" and chews away for two minutes. Eventually he coin-flip styles a red chip in the middle. New play says, "just a jack sir" and rolls over AJ. Villain goes, "I didn't call... Actually, I'm all in." Dealer says, "sir, you called, that's your chip." And villain says, "no, that's my lucky chip from (some random card room), I was coin flipping to see if I was going to call or raise. I raise."
02-14-2017 , 10:07 AM
Wrong section bud.

Post it here.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27/live-casino-poker/
02-14-2017 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
Sorry bout that. Can delete, I'll repost there.
02-14-2017 , 10:21 AM
wrong section but don't worry mods will move it.

there are *** ***** in every poker room, he is one of them.
02-14-2017 , 10:30 AM
The 2nd one is definitely an angle, but angles aren't really illegal. Immoral? Sure. Against the rules? Not always. They are just underhanded moves designed to trick the opponent.

Don't ever expose your hand until the dealer announces "Call".
02-14-2017 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
This is correct. Locked here. Feel free to repost there.
02-14-2017 , 10:44 AM
Both of these are angles in my view. Second is worse than the first.

Don't think anything can be done about the first one, except maybe warning the guy or removing him from the room for some time if he does it a lot. Second one is egregious, and he should be held to a call. I don't care if it's a red chip from another casino or his lucky chip. First off, he knows what he's doing, and even if he didn't he's held to it here.
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