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06-05-2018 , 12:13 AM
1/3, 300 max

1) BTN straddle 6, BB calls, H (300) raises 25 UTG1 with AKcc, UTG2 (150) calls..

FLOP (63): JJTcsd
H bets 25/V calls...

TURN (113): 5x
c/V bets 100/H folds



2) H opens 15 UTG with AQo, 3 calls...

FLOP (64): AT3r
H bets 20/next to act lady calls, BTN calls

TURN (124): Kx
H bets 40/lady calls/BTN folds..

RIVER (204): Jx
H bets 115/lady folds Ax face up


3) H opens AKcd 15 OTB over LJ limp, he calls..

FLOP (34): 533ssc
c/H bets 15/c..

TURN (64): 9s
c/H bets 35/checks cards and calls

RIVER (134): Js
c/c.. shows KsTd FTW


4) H raises AQo SB 20 over CO (150) open limp

FLOP (43): T74r
Hero c/CO bets 17/H folds
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06-05-2018 , 12:37 AM
I'd bet more OTF in hand 2, it's too small against that many opponents. Also would bet less OTR. If you bet like 60 it looks like you might be blocking with two pair and makes life difficult for people with something like AJ or KJ. Your sizing is making it too easy for people to fold and you won't normally have hands that want to bluff here.

Aside from that everything looks fine. Double barrelling the turn in hand 3 will probably be controversial but I like it. You can get people to fold some better hands (eg 66 no spade) while simultaneously calling worse hands (his actual hand). I sometimes x back the flop in similar spots but in this spot it's so unlikely we're beaten given that he limp/called the LJ and the board is so low, that AK qualifies as a hand to go for value with. As evidenced by him calling with KT.

Last edited by ChrisV; 06-05-2018 at 12:44 AM.
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06-05-2018 , 12:45 AM
H1 bigger pre since you already have a limper and are in EP. Check flop with probably your entire range.

H2
Bet a little bigger on flop.
Turn I'm still sizing bigger like half pot.
I think river is good.

H3
If you want to bet to deny equity from all his random garbage that's fine especially vs fit or fold villains or super loose ones, but against more adept opponents I'm checking here alot. If I bet flop I'm checking turn.

H4
I prefer betting flop here and barreling any broadway turn.
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06-05-2018 , 12:49 AM
To clarify the comment about betting more against this many opponents, my point is that your bets in this spot are going to be heavily value-oriented. You'll have a good ace or better most times you bet. People tend to have pretty inelastic calling ranges with respect to bet size. Ax lady is calling whether the price is $40 or $20. So there's really no reason not to bump your sizing up in these sort of spots. This contrasts with heads-up spots where you might have raised in position or whatever and are looking to cbet and take it down a lot. In those situations keeping sizing small has advantages.
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06-05-2018 , 12:53 AM
I think betting flop and barrelling broadway turns is a decent line as well in H4. It might be better to do that on this flop and take the x/f line on flops like T94 and 974 where barrelling broadway turns is less appealing.
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06-05-2018 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
1/3, 300 max

1) BTN straddle 6, BB calls, H (300) raises 25 UTG1 with AKcc, UTG2 (150) calls..

FLOP (63): JJTcsd
H bets 25/V calls...

TURN (113): 5x
c/V bets 100/H folds



2) H opens 15 UTG with AQo, 3 calls...

FLOP (64): AT3r
H bets 20/next to act lady calls, BTN calls

TURN (124): Kx
H bets 40/lady calls/BTN folds..

RIVER (204): Jx
H bets 115/lady folds Ax face up


3) H opens AKcd 15 OTB over LJ limp, he calls..

FLOP (34): 533ssc
c/H bets 15/c..

TURN (64): 9s
c/H bets 35/checks cards and calls

RIVER (134): Js
c/c.. shows KsTd FTW


4) H raises AQo SB 20 over CO (150) open limp

FLOP (43): T74r
Hero c/CO bets 17/H folds
1) Preflop and flop seem fine. Shove turn.

2) Bet more OTF and OTT probably 1/2psb

3) Sizing seems small. Should be like 18 here. Bet more OTT. X back to get to showdown okay but I probably overbet turn repping a big pair.

4) I would c bet this HU. Lots of draws but you can barrel blank or good turns. A x/c isn't terrible unless villain's a nit. Just seems x/f is giving up too easily to a small bet with two overs and BDSD
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06-05-2018 , 01:03 AM
Hand #1: Raise more pre. You can overbet jam this flop (this would obviously be better though if you had raised more and the SPR was 1.5 rather than 2). This is a situation where bet/folding is not ideal, because you have too much equity. AP, turn is tough, but prolly jam. He has worse hands in his range, and may make a bad fold with Tx, since your image is tight. He also probably has to find his fold button with 77 if he didn't find it otf.

Hand #2: Don't understand your sizing here at all. Everything ChrisV said is correct.

Hand #3: Check turn.

Hand #4: I hate this situation, but a lot of these dudes are playing fit or fold and you can cbet overly much in this spot without them adjusting.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 06-05-2018 at 01:20 AM.
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06-05-2018 , 01:08 AM
Only real mistake was to not flop better.
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06-05-2018 , 01:55 AM
Regarding Hand 2, I do realize I can size flop bigger, I watch too many Doug Polk videos and want to bet 1/3 pot on bone dry flops instead of playing exploitative.

On the turn though, I’m a little scared of behind behind 2p/sets and folding out worse Ax so I don’t know if I should really be going bigger than 1/3-1/2 pot? I am really uncomfortable with one pair in these spots especially vs 2 opponents OOP.

River, I thought she’d have a lot of 2p here that might make a crying call but was obviously wrong. Also, I don’t know if I should thinvalue bet a brick river here.
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06-05-2018 , 03:17 AM
Doug Polk videos are great, but he's not normally taking flops against three bad opponents. Betting smaller would be the right move against clueful opponents for exactly the same reason, i.e. that you are so heavily value. BTW, these are good spots to fold aggressively if you're one of the other players. If you bet $40 on that flop and I am one of the other players with like A5 suited, I am not even considering calling. Happily, 99% of LLSNL players are incapable of folding Ax there.

On the turn, yeah, these spots often get awkward, because you're so heavily value after betting two streets that it gets hard for your opponents to call with worse. If you bet like $70 the lady might well fold. The purpose of the bet is equity denial and thin value, so sizing small makes sense imo.
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06-05-2018 , 11:42 AM
H1:

Good spot to limp/reraise, imo. And if it limps around, whatever; AKs plays good in limped pots too. If raising, I'd raise more to make stacking off with TP slightly more comfortable postflop.

Think I'm cool with postflop.


H2:

Think I'd rather fold AQo in EP if a raise is going to get 3 callers. Ava has mentioned in the past about folding AQo in EP, and while I've never actually done it, I can't see it being too horrible.

Postflop is opponent dependent. The more moron filled the table is, the more I bet/fold small for value. The more anyone has half a clue, the more I check and go from there.

Think I'm cool with postflop.


H3:

I'm cool with preflop and flop. I'm done with the hand after that (not really a fan of betting the turn when the main draw gets there and opponent could have that a lot). Although lol @ opponent, as it turns out every single bet we made was for value, so nice I guess.


H4:

I'm cool with preflop.

I probably cbet the flop against ABC opponents. Against more aggro ones I might check/shove. As played (checking) I'm fine folding against an ABC opponent.


ETA: Unlike others, I'm actually pretty cool with our postflop sizing. When we whiff, we're cool with cbetting very small just to end the hand for as cheap as possible (especially since we're likely giving up if called, which I mostly am). But when we make TP, I think we're still cool with smaller sizing, especially multiway, such that it doesn't grow the pot out of control (and is also partly why I'm actually cool with checking it against a crowd with a clue). I agree that the size of the bet (so long as it is reasonable) won't have any affect on the calling ranges, but we also have to balance this against the fact that we simply don't want to be building a huge pot either. IMO.

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Last edited by gobbledygeek; 06-05-2018 at 11:49 AM.
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06-05-2018 , 04:22 PM
Bet smaller in these spots on the river in hand 2 where both of your ranges contain a lot of nuts.

It almost seems as though you have bet sizing tells. You bet less than half pot almost every time you were bluffing/unsure of your hand and upped the sizing suddenly on the river in hand 2.
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06-05-2018 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
It almost seems as though you have bet sizing tells. You bet less than half pot almost every time you were bluffing/unsure of your hand and upped the sizing suddenly on the river in hand 2.
Against a lot of our opponents, does it matter if we have a bet sizing tell? I don't think it does all that much against all but the best opponents, which is why I usually size my bets according to how big a pot I want. Incredibly exploitable, to be sure, but *if* your opponent isn't exploiting this information...

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