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09-26-2018 , 12:03 PM
here is a perfect example of how making the wrong decision preflop will cost you thousands

thinking A9 or A10 suited UTG is a good open

then getting lucky and winning a pot

this will reinforce your desire to make bad decisions in the future
thereby costing you $$$$$$$$ over the next 20 yrs assuming you aren't broke long before then.
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09-26-2018 , 12:19 PM
This isn't even true. Under certain game conditions, it is profitable, and even necessary to open hands like A9s and 67s from UTG (not all the time of course, but maybe 25-50% of the time). This is the case when we are deep and there are huge implied odds for flush over flush/ two pair scenarios. I would much rather hit a two pair with A9 on a board A97tt than with AQ on a board AQT -- our hand is super disguised on the first board, and Vs will call us down light. As an added advantage we can use some of our Ax suiteds in our bluff 4-bet range. This is especially important in case we're facing a field of tough opponents and we need to balance our ranges.

There are no hard and fast rules in poker. Our preflop decisions need to be determined based on context like table conditions, our own postflop skills, and opponent tendencies.

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Originally Posted by snowman
here is a perfect example of how making the wrong decision preflop will cost you thousands

thinking A9 or A10 suited UTG is a good open

then getting lucky and winning a pot

this will reinforce your desire to make bad decisions in the future
thereby costing you $$$$$$$$ over the next 20 yrs assuming you aren't broke long before then.
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09-26-2018 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by snowman
here is a perfect example of how making the wrong decision preflop will cost you thousands

thinking A9 or A10 suited UTG is a good open

then getting lucky and winning a pot

this will reinforce your desire to make bad decisions in the future
thereby costing you $$$$$$$$ over the next 20 yrs assuming you aren't broke long before then.
A9 and AT suited are very different hands to open with, not sure why you would group them together here. Nothing wrong w opening AT suited UTG.

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09-26-2018 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wck117
If you didn’t snap call the turn then yes you’re probably on scared money. Pretty sure even GG would be getting this in
No doubt.

With stacks, I am shoving this flop. Unless V has a set of 3's or 5's, you are destroying his range and there just isn't enough behind to consider folding.

AP, "he beat him into the pot Vince..." I hope.
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09-26-2018 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by +AV
I call turn after some deliberation and V shows pocket AA..... we scoop.
Good boy. NHWPOP
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09-26-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Snarflar
Note on the UTG open, assuming most of table is like villains in the hand, there is not really any reason to fear a 3 bet. So, I don't mind the open. However, Id prefer to do it with A2-A5 suited than middling suited aces.
Huh?
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09-26-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aisrael01
This isn't even true. Under certain game conditions, it is profitable, and even necessary to open hands like A9s and 67s from UTG (not all the time of course, but maybe 25-50% of the time). This is the case when we are deep and there are huge implied odds for flush over flush/ two pair scenarios. I would much rather hit a two pair with A9 on a board A97tt than with AQ on a board AQT -- our hand is super disguised on the first board, and Vs will call us down light. As an added advantage we can use some of our Ax suiteds in our bluff 4-bet range. This is especially important in case we're facing a field of tough opponents and we need to balance our ranges.

There are no hard and fast rules in poker. Our preflop decisions need to be determined based on context like table conditions, our own postflop skills, and opponent tendencies.
this is true to an extent

a4 a5 suited 78 suited much better than A9

table and game conditions do make a difference
but those are to adjust to normal open range with ;A9 A10 should not be in there as normal
we are talking UTG hands

maybe 5%-10%
25-50% way to high
you are giving away far to much profit if you continue to do this.

But junkies need their fix and its your money so do as you wish
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09-26-2018 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
Huh?
If im adding suited Aces to my UTG range that arent AT+, I'd be more inclined to do it with lower Aces as its easier to flop a straight with them than A9.... thats all.

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09-26-2018 , 04:30 PM
I mean, I strongly disagree with your assessment. You can open Ax suited deep, just don't become too attached when you pair your ace. I have constructed a balanced opening UTG range including suited aces and suited connectors (at 25-50%). It's a 9.5% opening frequency, which is not absurd. This range has decent board coverage, so I can hit both low and high boards. In case you're wondering:

Opening Range: UTG through UTG+2
100%: Premium Broadway (AQ+,AJs,KQs), Premium/Medium PP (77+), (88 combos)
50%: Suited Connectors (54s-QJs) (16 combos)
25%: KQo, AJo, ATs (7 combos)
25%: Low suited aces (A2s-A9s) (8 combos)
10%: Suited 1 or 2-gappers, Small PPs (8 combos)
Total: 127 (9.5%)

This balance is probably fine as long as we're around 200bbs deep. In the 100-150bb range, I'm discarding Ax suiteds, KQ0, AJo, and ATs, and lowering the frequency of my suited connectors a tad.

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Originally Posted by snowman
this is true to an extent

a4 a5 suited 78 suited much better than A9

table and game conditions do make a difference
but those are to adjust to normal open range with ;A9 A10 should not be in there as normal
we are talking UTG hands

maybe 5%-10%
25-50% way to high
you are giving away far to much profit if you continue to do this.

But junkies need their fix and its your money so do as you wish

Last edited by aisrael01; 09-26-2018 at 04:44 PM.
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09-26-2018 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aisrael01
I mean, I strongly disagree with your assessment. You can open Ax suited deep, just don't become too attached when you pair your ace. I have constructed a balanced opening UTG range including suited aces and suited connectors (at 25-50%). It's a 9.5% opening frequency, which is not absurd. This range has decent board coverage, so I can hit both low and high boards. In case you're wondering:

Opening Range: UTG through UTG+2
100%: Premium Broadway (AQ+,AJs,KQs), Premium/Medium PP (77+), (88 combos)
50%: Suited Connectors (54s-QJs) (16 combos)
25%: KQo, AJo, ATs (7 combos)
25%: Low suited aces (A2s-A9s) (8 combos)
10%: Suited 1 or 2-gappers, Small PPs (8 combos)
Total: 127 (9.5%)

This balance is probably fine as long as we're around 200bbs deep. In the 100-150bb range, I'm discarding Ax suiteds, KQ0, AJo, and ATs, and lowering the frequency of my suited connectors a tad.
ok
my open range UTG-UTG+2 is not as wide mainly because most players in my games are under 100BB and limp calling AK is standard OMC play

also newbee's who are not good at hand reading who read these posts can find far more profit by tighting up UTG and loosening up near the button
hands like AQ KQ KJ AJ A10 A9 A8 A7 A6 hit the muck before the button gets his 2nd card
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09-26-2018 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Good boy. NHWPOP
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09-27-2018 , 01:57 AM
A pretty aggressive raise preflop. OK to do this once in a while if you are pretty good at hand reading and willing to continue the aggression.

Shove the flop. You're not getting away from this hand. This is a pretty big mistake. He could fold to a shove.
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09-27-2018 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by +AV
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Glad you called. Nice Hand Well Played Original Poster.
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