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02-19-2018 , 09:29 AM
V2-seems to be tight passive. hasn't made any real moves in about 2 hours

$450.00Hero-From Cutoff Opens to 12.00 K10

v1-calls 12.00 loose passive fish super sticky

sb folds

$150.00V2- min raises to $25.00 from BB

hero-calls $25.00 cant really 4 bet bluff him here with his stack size. I don't like calling with k10 off here but I have to with just a min raise.

v1-calls $25.00

Pot-$75.00

FLOP-K77

v2- cbets $35.00

Hero-calls $35.00

v1-folds

TURN-6

v2-jams around $90.00

Hero-?????

In the moment I felt like this was super spewy. Problem was that this V was relatively tight up to this point. What hand with this line min raises OOP????
AA with A NO
AK A NO

maybe KQ KJ with but I think v just calls preflop too
maybe Ax to spice pot up but this V didn't play like that he would've just called

same with suited connecters

Thoughts????
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02-19-2018 , 09:35 AM
I would fold to the preflop 3 bet about 80% of the time because this is AA/KK so often. If I called preflop, I would be folding this turn.
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02-19-2018 , 09:38 AM
you really think Villains just min raises here with AA or KK OOP ? Even at 1/2 I cant recall seeing this especially with a caller in between
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02-19-2018 , 10:05 AM
They do it all the time where I play. The bad players I mean.
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02-19-2018 , 10:14 AM
yea I got you but tbh they don't do it where I play

they limp re raise them all the time but not min 3 bets especially with other v's in hand
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02-19-2018 , 11:02 AM
Grunch:
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I don't like calling with k10 off here but I have to with just a min raise.
Why do you have to? What board are you going to love, other than JQAr? He's tight passive and he's raising, abort!

AP, I don't mind the flop call hoping he shuts down and you can get to a cheap showdown, but the turn is a must fold, and I expect to mostly see the two hands you said he doesn't min-raise pre, AA and AK, occasionally the last KK combo.

Post Grunch edit: Yes, tight passive players know that they are supposed to raise with those hands, but some of them are afraid to commit too much money pre, so they often undersize woefully. Others oversize woefully, as they'd rather win the minimum than get cracked, but these tiny three bets are definitely also in character for TP players.

Last edited by Garick; 02-19-2018 at 11:05 AM. Reason: post grunch
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02-19-2018 , 12:46 PM
Yeah i agree, i don't min-raise like that at all but a lot of players love the min-raise because they love to trap
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02-19-2018 , 12:47 PM
After I seen the min-raise bet from the tight passive player I stopped reading. Easy fold. Im very confident our hand is trash.
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