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AKs vs turn all-in AKs vs turn all-in

01-22-2014 , 04:04 PM
1/2 at the local casino. Game are generally loose passive with 90% limp calls. Hero just table change because an Asian spewtard on my right couldn't figure out how to not cough on me. This was my first hand at the new table.

Table has a few big stacks that I've played with before. Solid players, a bit on the loose side especially when they get stacks but generally TAG.

Hero (275) is in MP with 2 limps ahead of me, makes it 14 with AKs
Only Big Stack (800) in the BB calls

Flop (29) : KQ7 cc

BS checks
Hero makes it 25
BS calls

Turn (79) : 4d

BS checks
Hero makes it 45
BS goes all-in
Hero?
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01-22-2014 , 04:15 PM
Any reads on the how the bs plays? Is he one of the standard tags that you're familiar with and played with before?
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01-22-2014 , 04:16 PM
pretty much spot on Baluga Theorem. Fold...
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01-22-2014 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces&Kings
Any reads on the how the bs plays? Is he one of the standard tags that you're familiar with and played with before?
He is one of them.

I do know he won't hesitate to 3bet the upper portion of his range PF.

I also know I've never seen him declare all-in like this vs a smaller stack. Does have a tendency to big stack bully and float flop bets.
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01-22-2014 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
He is one of them.

I do know he won't hesitate to 3bet the upper portion of his range PF.

I also know I've never seen him declare all-in like this vs a smaller stack. Does have a tendency to big stack bully and float flop bets.
What do you think his view of you is?
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01-22-2014 , 04:38 PM
You haven't really given a definitive-enough read on villain to make this a call I don't think. Yes he'll have JTcc and maybe some AJcc/ATcc, but I doubt he's going to take this line with just a bare flush draw or straight draw. Floating flops is one thing, but floating the flop and then x-jamming the turn is kind of a step beyond. Shocked if he ever has pure air here. Most of his semibluffs have good equity too (though suits on the flop would help figure out what combo draws he can or can't have). I fold and keep an eye on him.
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01-22-2014 , 04:44 PM
Hate these hands but it's a fold. More often then not it's a set of fours as strange as that sounds. You're also behind to the rest of his range, KQ, 77, and who knows K7 or Q7. I doubt he makes this move with the flush draw/pair and flush draw/straight and flush draw on the turn.

You'd be surprised at how often a bad player will do this with a set of fours with the mindset that they hit their miracle card and now they have to protect it lol.
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01-22-2014 , 05:05 PM
Looks like he doesn't want you to draw to a flush or straight.
Smells like two pair, possibly set.
What cards on the flop were clubs?
Do you remember?
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01-22-2014 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces&Kings
What do you think his view of you is?
Respectable game, similar to my view of him. Probably respects me a little less because of age/hoodie factor.
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01-22-2014 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces&Kings
Looks like he doesn't want you to draw to a flush or straight.
Smells like two pair, possibly set.
What cards on the flop were clubs?
Do you remember?
Uh, Q7 were the flopped clubs IIRC.
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01-22-2014 , 05:15 PM
You can bet $60-65 on this completely blank turn card to get more value. Whatever he is calling you with on the flop, he's going to call you with on the turn.

Without a read, you should fold to his check/raise. You're going to run into a range of KQ, 77, and strong combo draws a lot - which you're not doing well against.

Betting more on the turn is correct in the sense that you get more value. But a side effect of that is that the larger you bet, the less likely someone is to bluff you.
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01-22-2014 , 05:31 PM
With no reads it's a fold. You're only beating a bluff and most semibluff draws have decent equity. I figure he x/r his draws on the flop. I think I can get away from this one here
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01-23-2014 , 12:05 AM
can certainly see why you want to call
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01-23-2014 , 12:27 AM
$70 on turn. I'm not folding heads up.
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