Hero 20s African American female, CO, known to be fairly new player. Villian has seen Hero 3 bet AJo earlier this session, make top pair and felt a short stack vs an open ended straight draw. Generally tighter than that, when that hand was shown, got "wows" from people whom Hero had played with before this session.

Villian 60s white male, BB, 160 stack. Raises frequently (20%) fairly small pre (7-10) and plays mostly fit or fold on the flop, even when he is the preflop aggressor. Has not 3 bet yet in about an hour and a half

2 limpers to Hero who makes it 17 with AK
Folds to Villian who makes it 45, folded to Hero who ????

i like flatting and playing in position here. if you 4! you lose hands you're ahead of like AQs and since he's fit or fold you can barrel him off TT/JJ on most boards - even if you miss - anyway.
Committing on Ax, Kx, or spades boards.

Described Vs 3b range OOP is QQ+. Maybe only KK+.

Sucks but this might be a fold. In realtime, I probably call though and pay him off when flop comes K hi and he rolls over AA lol.

gonna be tough to "barrel him off" anything in 110 pot with 115 left.
if we make these patented 9x opens, there is just no room for postflop play in a 3bet pot with 80bb eff. either fold or shove. if you call, you better stack off on ANY texture postflop.
calling here and only continuing with pairs is pretty bad.

just ship it in, if you think he´s capable of 3bet/folding AQ in this spot, why can´t he do the same with TT?

I probably flat but expect to be up against QQ/KK/AA or other AK combos rarely. Only really love the flop if we flop broadway or a flush, unless it comes A/K high and he checks flop. But the more I think about it should probably fold but I'm not that good yet.

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I assume you cover V.

As indicated above, jam, fold, or call just to add some interest before you jam any flop.

If you jam, you're sticking in $143 to win $185 less rake, BBJ, tip, let's optimistically call it $180.

V doesn't have the OMC vibe with his 20% raising, which is good. I wouldn't expect the AJo hand to make much difference. I think it usually takes more than one weird line to really get V's to change their approach -- and some V's wouldn't change their approach no matter what.

I think either jamming or folding is fine. The EV is likely to be close either way.

I think I fold it. It's high variance and low EV, maybe negative EV. My guess is that even if it's positive EV in a vacuum, when you add rake, BBJ, and tip it's negative.

If you have any issue with losing big pots when you're ahead or flipping, or if you have any bankroll or buy-in limits, I think it's a clear fold.

I would personally just 4b shove here preflop. With him having a short stack I can't really see calling the 45 being a good play.

Maybe if you really think this opponent is only 3betting QQ+, fold AKo and jam AKs.

That being said, having AK makes it less likely he has KK or AA, and for 80bb I'm never folding this.


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For 80bb effective, I shove AKs pre-flop. I think the only other option is fold unless you plan to gii on all flops regardless.

These are tough spots at 1/2 because people often are only 3 betting KK and AA.

Fold is probably correct from a direct $ standpoint, but I would put the $ in just because I don't want people 3 betting me comfortably and you have decent equity against everything except AA specifically.

Calling when he is going to have basically a pot sized bet behind is pretty terrible because more often than not you're going to whiff flop, and when he puts it in on you you are NEVER good.

I'm probably jamming because 160 effective and then smacking myself when he snap calls KK or AA.

I don't know. A 3 bet over a 8.5x open looks insanely strong especially from a guy in his 60s. But with stacks what they are he should 3 bet at least TT+ AQ+. If he does you're golden but if he's on QQ+ even with your blockers you're 34%. TT+ AK is probably break evenish.

I like flatting if we are deeper but here unless villain will just x/f when he doesn't make at least TPTK we shouldn't do it.

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Thank you for your responses

I threw about 140 in, and he quickly folded, showing KK

Thank you for your responses

I threw about 140 in, and he quickly folded, showing KK

I hope you didn't show. Clearly, your 3bet before had no effect on him.

Wow. Make a note on this guy. Every now and then (rarely enough to not get noticed), realize you can apparently get him to fold 99.5% of his range preflop. Obviously be sure it's just you and him and it's good to have some hand value to fall back on (suited aces should do the trick), but he has an exploitable hole big enough to drive a truck through, and he seems willing to supply the truck.

Omg play with that guy every time.

Either way... against a better opponent...

Preflop sizing should be between 10-14... 10 standard raise and one BB for every limper max... I probably just go 12 and never make changes much to my openings to conceal my range strength. That 17 pre is going to lead to nightmares postflop against better players. The math of the pot bloats so much faster even though it doesn't seem like much.

Better progression with deeper stacks might go... $11 folds around Villain 3 bets to $33 and we can decide to 4! or flat much more comfortably to a $33 3-bet than a 45$ 3bet

In that last situation where it would be 3 bet to $33 I would flat. Once it goes to 45 preflop in a 1/2 game you better know the raiser is a maniac to play. Against a 1/2 nitty player that raise is a fold.

Ha. That's amazing. Particularly that he showed. What a nit! I thought you'd have close to zero fold equity in this spot. Had you been playing super tight or something? Occasionally if I'm running good and show Aces a couple times people just assume for a couple hours after that a big raise from me is Aces.