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12-12-2017 , 08:33 AM

nolispeifaflaatoi

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 198

2€/2€ cash game, 10 players

Stacks 200€-500€, hero is the short stack with 140€. Hero has been severely card dead for two hours in addition to being generally tighter than the rest of the table. Everyone has noticed.

Villain is UTG+2, not much history but seems like a good, thinking player. Stack 400€.

UTG+1 opens for 8€. Villain calls, HJ calls.

Hero raises to 30€ on the button with A

. Blinds fold, 3 calls. The pot is 124€.

Flop: 7

UTG+1 checks, villain bets 40€, HJ folds

Hero: ?

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12-12-2017 , 09:13 AM

foldandclose

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 67

You have 110 left, pot is 164. Probably just need to jam and get ready to re-buy or just fold and top up

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12-12-2017 , 09:42 AM

mustberigged

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 87

Go bigger preflop.

You don't have the best hand on the flop but if you think villain is capable of folding a pair on this flop, then jam. Calling isn't the worst but sometimes you're dead to runner-runner FH outs.

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12-12-2017 , 10:38 AM

akwedeen

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 20

Either jam or just get away from it. 4 ways that just doesn't play very well with that flop.

I would raise bigger pre flop and try to get it to heads up or 3 players at most.

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12-12-2017 , 02:11 PM

SIGH_I_CALL

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 6

- Bigger Pre
- SPR less than 1 so we're shoving

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12-12-2017 , 04:35 PM

johnnyBuz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7,563

Fold and top off. You need 32% equity to shove and you’ve got like 27% versus a pair and are drawing nearly dead to trips. This guy isn’t donk/folding for $70 more.

And just rip it in preflop you’ve got $140 and want to see all 5 cards.

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12-12-2017 , 05:02 PM

QuantumSurfer

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,987

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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz

+1.

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12-12-2017 , 09:00 PM

Calldown88

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 500

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Originally Posted by SIGH_I_CALL

- Bigger Pre
- SPR less than 1 so we're shoving

SPR 1 so just jamming our no pair/no draw hand. Seems legit.

You guys go freaking crazy with the spr concept. Jamming here is burning the rest of your stack, fold.

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12-13-2017 , 03:43 PM

nolispeifaflaatoi

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 198

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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz

And just rip it in preflop you’ve got $140 and want to see all 5 cards.

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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer

+1.

All in preflop can't be that bad - there's 28€ already in the pot and we're likely taking that down a good percentage of the time. However, 140 into a pot of 28 is still a massive 3-bet. Surely we only get called when we're flipping or crushed? We're giving away our positional advantage (however limited at this stack depth) and making it an easy decision for the hands which we'd actually want action from.

Any merit in making it something like 40-45, leaving us about a pot-sized bet in position if we get heads up?

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