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08-15-2018 , 06:03 PM
Hi all,

I played this hand last night at a 1/3$ CAD and was wondering if I
made the right play.

First some background:
Hero is early 20s, look even younger than I am, white. Stack is ~$500.
The action on the table has been insane - a rich middle aged guy from
out of town was drinking and having a good time, the whole table was playing
really loose as a result.

I had adjusted by overlimping more and flatting more (with hands that I would normally raise), as the raises and 3bs were out of control, the rich guy was stacking off with bottom pair for 400$+, no reason for me to get OOL.

Anyways, the hand:

Fishy mid 20s asian guy limps for 3 from EP, I look down at AKo in MP and make it 20$ (maybe I can go bigger here?). Whale calls from BTN, late 20s asian gambooler calls from SB, limper calls.

Four ways to the flop (~80$), QT4r, checks through.

Turn is an offsuit K, EP villain checks, I bet 25$ (in hindsight I should bet larger in this game condition, my normal style is very LAGgy and I use small sizings in order to steal more often and frequently fire multiple streets with larger sizings on later streets). SB calls 25$, everyone else folds.

SB has about 150$ left in his stack, river is a brick 4, pot is ~$130.
He checks, I bet 50$ hoping to get looked up by any Tx and above, villain tanks for 30seconds and then rips his 150$.

Hero: ???

Spoiler:

At this point in the session I was getting a little bit tired and I had seen this gambooler guy show some very questionable holdings.

I end up calling off getting like 3 to 1, and villain tables K4hh for a turned 2p, rivered full house.

In hindsight I feel like this is a clear fold, but I'm not 100% sure.


Based on MDF, I have to call like 40% of the time here, and given the line I took, I'm going to have AK, QQ, JJ, KJs and AJs (Note that I had drastically reduced my raising range on this table, so hands like AJo KJo KTo aren't really possible).

Then I have 12 combos of AK, 3 combos of QQ, 6combos of JJ, 3 combos of KJs, 4 combos of AJ.

That's 28 combos total, so I need to defend 12. That's QQ and AJ, but I still
have 5 combos left.

I'm overanalysing this spot LOL...

I appreciate any thoughts on this hand.

Thanks
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08-15-2018 , 06:21 PM
I would have check called the turn, at this point I just wanna get to SD cheaply in a 4 way pot on that board.

if I was gonna bet the turn, I would have bet hp

river is a c/c depending on his sizing imo. There are a lot of two pair combos in those player type's range.
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08-15-2018 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
I would have check called the turn, at this point I just wanna get to SD cheaply in a 4 way pot on that board.

if I was gonna bet the turn, I would have bet hp

river is a c/c depending on his sizing imo. There are a lot of two pair combos in those player type's range.
That makes sense because the IP rich guy was spewing a lot and maybe I can trap him.

I think HP makes a lot of sense too.

What do you think about the draws though?
I think I can charge Jx on the turn, whereas I'm not gonna get action on the river unless they have JT+

I like the check/call river, I didn't think of that.

Do you think HP turn, c/c river is a better line (or check/fold if he jams or bets some huge amount)?
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08-16-2018 , 12:27 AM
So much AK pain recently.

I think I'm happy in that spot raising to get whale and fishy guy in a pot with weaker hands. Preflop seems good.

Checking the flop. Betting HP+ on the turn. When SB calls the turn, I think I'm check-calling a reasonable river bet. gamboolers gonna gambool. River pairs the board, there is already a straight draw from the turn and I'm not sure what SB would pay off with that's behind.

IRL, I'm more worried about A4s, 45 and 34 than K4.
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08-16-2018 , 11:16 AM
Really easy overlimp for me preflop. At this action table there is likely to be a raise and multiple calls and then we can reraise to get in huge percentages of our stack (perhaps against the whale) to setup a PSB shove on the flop or even simply shove and take down the dead money. Raising with this stack size seems really bad as all we do is get in a very small 4% of it against multiple players and now we're playing for stacks against the world postflop when anyone could have anything.

I also check (to fold) the flop.

I'd probably 1/2 PSB the turn.

If we're betting the river then I like our small bet as we're looking to get looked up mostly by weak hands such as 2nd pair-. We've raised preflop, bet the turn when our obvious AK got there, and bet the river, leaving << PSB behind; I doubt he thinks he has any FE. Has he made any crazy bluffs like this before? If I'm betting the river, it's to fold.

ETA: You're really overanalyzing with your combo counting / etc. You played your hand like a face up AK and got check/raised on the river when opponent should likely know he has little FE; that's all you need to know.

ETA: Unless I'm reading the hand history incorrectly, we're in position on the river and it was checked to us. We can't check/call.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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08-16-2018 , 11:37 PM
I normally roll my eyes at GG's "limp" posts, but I think it makes some sense here, assuming you expect a raise behind frequently. Taking down dead money preflop with the strength of the hand as backup is an ideal scenario for AKo, so the fact that someone has already limped is an asset in terms of trapping people in between a raiser and you. While there's nothing wrong with AKo in like a 5-way raised pot, it's also unlikely to be a fistpump scenario, so it's not a big deal to play a limped pot instead. If you have say KK, you can flop stuff like Q52 or KTT where there's a big potential for lost value if you're in a limped pot. Aside from flopping broadway, it's hard to flop like that with AKo.
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