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11-13-2019 , 10:36 AM
1/2 No Limit - Hard Rock Seminole

Hero's Effective Stack: $320

Hero TAG - has taken down a few pots without much resistance
Villain LAG - old man w\ sunglasses and earpiece, seems to have come from recent tourny bustout - has been straddling for 5 and mostly calling raises, shown down winners with hands like 89o / j7o, seen betting 34o on 225 flop, doubled up two hands earlier flopping a straight with 9To.

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Villian straddles to 5

Dealt to Hero AK

SB calls 5
Hero UTG+1 raises to 20
Villian in HJ calls 20
SB calls 20

Flop ($58): AQ9

Sb checks. Hero bets 20.
Villain pauses, seems to be considering a fold then does some twirly Teddy KGB thing with his fancy protector chips and raises to 55. SB Folds. Hero Calls

Turn ($163): 7

Hero checks. Villain bets $80. Hero?

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Thoughts on flop / reads? Small donk bet turn?
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11-13-2019 , 10:40 AM
He sounds like the typical tournament player. With that being said, I've seen one type that overplays top pair and one that's just a station, with the ladder being the usual. He almost certainly doesn't have diamonds.

If you haven't seen him show much aggression, it's an easy fold, but if this guy is a huge over playing machine, call.
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11-13-2019 , 11:15 AM
Table seems loose, especially the guy in the straddle so I make it bigger pf. But that's just a minor tweak.

Based on his pf hand selection and his flop raise he doesn't seem very good.

Call turn. On the river I have a couple lines I'll go. If it bricks diamonds sometimes I'll jam. But my more standard line is to check call most rivers and bets.
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11-13-2019 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Table seems loose, especially the guy in the straddle so I make it bigger pf. But that's just a minor tweak.

Based on his pf hand selection and his flop raise he doesn't seem very good.

Call turn. On the river I have a couple lines I'll go. If it bricks diamonds sometimes I'll jam. But my more standard line is to check call most rivers and bets.
Almost no one in this player type category plays FDs like this
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11-13-2019 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
Almost no one in this player type category plays FDs like this
I'm not saying he has a FD. Where did you get that?
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11-13-2019 , 02:18 PM
I don't like the small flop bet.

As played, call the turn bet and evaluate river. From your description, he's been calling, not betting/raising, so not sure what's going on. He did bet his draw on a paired board, so he could be betting a draw here. You'd know better than we would. How did he play the flopped straight?
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11-13-2019 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I'm not saying he has a FD. Where did you get that?
You mentioned you'd jam non diamond brick rivers, which implies that he has some diamonds, because why else would we be afraid to jam if he's capped? I get the idea that we run into the problem of getting fewer hands able to call, but if he's capped, why does it matter?

I personally doubt this player type is raising, then betting turn with many (if any) hands we beat
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11-13-2019 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
You mentioned you'd jam non diamond brick rivers, which implies that he has some diamonds, because why else would we be afraid to jam if he's capped? I get the idea that we run into the problem of getting fewer hands able to call, but if he's capped, why does it matter?

I personally doubt this player type is raising, then betting turn with many (if any) hands we beat
Not because he has a FD. But because that line looks bluffy like we missed our fd. Not because we're afraid otherwise.
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11-13-2019 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Not because he has a FD. But because that line looks bluffy like we missed our fd. Not because we're afraid otherwise.
So what do you think villain's range is Ott?
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11-13-2019 , 06:53 PM
worse Aces, JT, Kx, Qx, Jx, T9, 99 some diamonds.

I think he can bet turn with aot of these hands if he's small raising this flop with them.

His range to me is just too cluttered with a lot of worse hands.
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11-13-2019 , 07:20 PM
Does anyone else but me want to lead this turn?
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11-13-2019 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Spanishmoon
Does anyone else but me want to lead this turn?
I think it can work. What would you propose your leading range would be vs your check/call and crai range be?
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11-13-2019 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I think it can work. What would you propose your leading range would be vs your check/call and crai range be?
All the draws have bricked the turn and I feel like V is making the classic Sklansky limit move of raising the flop with a Semi-bluff draw to trying to get a free card on the turn if he misses. I’d rather lead the turn with all my Big Aces and my sets. I’m x/c my small FDs and my gutters and oesds. I’m crai my nfds.

I realize this isn’t particularly clever but against This V as described I’m punishing his loose play whenever I get a chance and he has demonstrated an ability to call down light.
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11-13-2019 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
worse Aces, JT, Kx, Qx, Jx, T9, 99 some diamonds.

I think he can bet turn with aot of these hands if he's small raising this flop with them.

His range to me is just too cluttered with a lot of worse hands.
I disagree; I'm not sure why you think he's that wide
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11-13-2019 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
I disagree; I'm not sure why you think he's that wide
Based on the OP.

This guy's playing J7o and 34o and betting draws on paired boards. Yeah this guy shouldn't be wide at all. You're right.
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11-13-2019 , 10:32 PM
Thanks for playing along! The table has been loose as mr spyutastic is seeing it, and i agree with the increased preflop raise tweak..

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Originally Posted by Javanewt
I don't like the small flop bet.
He did bet his draw on a paired board, so he could be betting a draw here. You'd know better than we would. How did he play the flopped straight?
JQK flop... SB bet $20, V raised to $60, short stacker on BTN went in for $100, SB got it in for $140 with KQ and V calls. True there's not much info there at first glance, it pretty much confirms the wild table theory and a lack of information which made me take the following line of thought...


Spoiler:

...so my small flop bet was awful (as java kindly pointed out) because I did not gain any information while bloating the pot at the same time. I am beat here by 99, A9 and Q9. I also can see him flatting pre with AK as a chop possibility. I'm happy to have him bluff into me with hands like any JTo, KJd, KTd, Axd. However, Sixseven makes a very good point, given the player archetype I may have widened this guy's range too much and I realize this on the next street. I do not see him 'value betting' this turn anything worse than AJ... so if river bricks as expected I'm basically turning my TPTK into a bluff-catcher *(unless we hit a king where we're shoving for value)... and so here we go...

Hero Calls $80.

River ($310): 3

Hero Checks. Villain goes all-in for Hero's remaining stack (~$170)

Any Heros out there?

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11-13-2019 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AsBadAsOne
1/2 No Limit - Hard Rock Seminole



Hero's Effective Stack: $320



Hero TAG - has taken down a few pots without much resistance

Villain LAG - old man w\ sunglasses and earpiece, seems to have come from recent tourny bustout - has been straddling for 5 and mostly calling raises, shown down winners with hands like 89o / j7o, seen betting 34o on 225 flop, doubled up two hands earlier flopping a straight with 9To.



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Villian straddles to 5



Dealt to Hero AK



SB calls 5

Hero UTG+1 raises to 20

Villian in HJ calls 20

SB calls 20



Flop ($58): AQ9



Sb checks. Hero bets 20.

Villain pauses, seems to be considering a fold then does some twirly Teddy KGB thing with his fancy protector chips and raises to 55. SB Folds. Hero Calls



Turn ($163): 7



Hero checks. Villain bets $80. Hero?



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Thoughts on flop / reads? Small donk bet turn?

This isn’t a LAG IMO. This is a spazzy gambler.

You prob shouldn’t be folding to a spazzy tournament player on a blank turn. You probably shouldn’t be raising either.


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11-14-2019 , 12:38 PM
Well, not much changed. It's pretty much a soul-read at this point. I'm a donkey and probably call it off now that I'm here.
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11-14-2019 , 10:45 PM
Below are the results... I would still appreciate any feedback.

Spoiler:


Hero calls all-in for $170

Villian shows Q9



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11-18-2019 , 05:50 PM
I think that you’re exaggerating, when you refer to this hand as you “facing pressure”. On a board that dry, facing a LAG, when you have Aces with a King kicker, the hand should really play itself. You’re in a very good spot.
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11-18-2019 , 07:32 PM
From what I gather, HJ is not going to fold, PF, unless you absolutely bomb the pot. And, it’s unlikely that SB will fold, either, if you only raise to $20 ($15 more for him to get involved in a 3-way, $60 pot).

Anyways, with AK you want to build a big pot. And you want to punish your opponents, for calling with inferior holdings. Raise it to $30.

Assuming both call ($92), bet $60 on the turn ($152).

If HJ raises you, shove. If he calls ($212), ship the turn.


Per your river question, I agree with a check/call.
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