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AKdd turns flush, river pairs TP on the flop, how to extract Max value? AKdd turns flush, river pairs TP on the flop, how to extract Max value?

09-20-2015 , 02:04 AM
Main villain in the hand is middle age WG. In the last hour of play he's gone broke with a short stack, re-bought short and tripled up with AK in a 3 way all in PF hand. So he's closer to OMC, l/f often, not really putting up a fight for pots. He starts the hand with $340ish

Hero: moved to table a few about an hour ago, has since shown down winning hands, haven't gotten out of line. Hero has a clean, winning image. (Covers)

On to the the hand

Hero opens from EP to $15, villain calls from the CO, BU calls but he's irrelevant after the flop.

Flop ($45): 943
Hero leads 30/45, co calls, bu folds.


Turn ($105): 6
Hero leads for $70 after some thought, villain takes about 10-12 seconds announces call.

His range very often is capped at top pair here. If he had a smaller flush he's likely raising turn, he raises a flopped set on the flop often so we can discount sets or any random two pairs.

River ($245): 9
Hero? Villain has about $230 left
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09-20-2015 , 03:08 AM
All of the chips to the center of the table.
AKdd turns flush, river pairs TP on the flop, how to extract Max value? Quote
09-20-2015 , 03:46 AM
all-in. why bet less?
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09-20-2015 , 01:39 PM
+1 on all in.

Trip 9s is going to call. Smaller flushes are going to call. If he flopped a set and filled up, it's not like you're going to bet/fold this board, given stacks and action.
If he has a full house, it's all going in anyways. Target his big hands, which he's likely to have given turn action, and shove.

I think he may be more likely to have a smaller flush than a 9, but I do think he shows up with a full house here sometimes too. Even OMCs will call in position with small pairs like 44 and 33. He's also likely to call off with a hand like TT or JJ, maybe even 88 if he just doesn't believe you.
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09-20-2015 , 07:11 PM
Villain could have some sort of overpair hand here, which would only call a weaker bet, but the MAX VALUE play is to just shove and HOPE for a 9x to call and almost for sure get a flush to call you.

The lower variance play is bet $120 and for sure get looked up by 9x/flushes, but also add in some weird hero calling hands.
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09-21-2015 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
+1 on all in.

Trip 9s is going to call. Smaller flushes are going to call. If he flopped a set and filled up, it's not like you're going to bet/fold this board, given stacks and action.
If he has a full house, it's all going in anyways. Target his big hands, which he's likely to have given turn action, and shove.

I think he may be more likely to have a smaller flush than a 9, but I do think he shows up with a full house here sometimes too. Even OMCs will call in position with small pairs like 44 and 33. He's also likely to call off with a hand like TT or JJ, maybe even 88 if he just doesn't believe you.
It's likely that villain can have a boat on the river, but wouldn't villain often raise the flop with a flopped set or a turned flush?


Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmyrage
Villain could have some sort of overpair hand here, which would only call a weaker bet, but the MAX VALUE play is to just shove and HOPE for a 9x to call and almost for sure get a flush to call you.

The lower variance play is bet $120 and for sure get looked up by 9x/flushes, but also add in some weird hero calling hands.
That's the line I took but wasn't happy about it. I think you guys are correct about this being a shove spot. I think villain's range consist of a 9x more often than a small flush, boat or over pair. Mistake on my part, left some money in the hand.
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09-21-2015 , 08:04 PM
V's range is most likely an overpair with a diamond in it rather than 9x which makes shoving slightly less tempting than making a 1/2 PSB. But I still shove. There's a slight chance he has 9x.
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