Hero: $250 in MP


Couple limps, Hero makes it $12 with AK, 4 calls.

Flop is A84 $60 in pot. Checks to hero who bets $30, button calls, as does the SB.

Turn 8. SB covers hero, and Btn has $100 behind. SB leads $40 into $150 pot.

SB is early 30's, bragging about casual sex and talking poker strat insecurely, fist bumping/genuinely acting empathetic when he's taken money off people, playing as expected.

Hero?

4 calls? Start raising more pre if this is common

Bet a little more on the flop, IMO, force the flush draw and other aces to pay up. 40-45 is probably better.

You really give us no reads so you're asking for the in a vacuum play.

agree with rumor. more pre, more otf.

tough to say without more reads. is he really peeling otf with just 8x?

+1 to everythg rumor said.

I call turn. The price is too good. If its a suck bet so be it. He can still have Ax often enough to not give up yet. Plan on calling another weak bet on the river or value betting yourself if villain checks.

4 callers is somewhat standard, but I raise a lot of hands and am normally opening $7-$10. I agree with more on the flop, though I don't see how it changes anything in this spot. I think a raise to $16 reduces the callers by one.

I think his range on the turn is 44/A8/AJ-AQ/some clubs. I think he folds most of the time with worse than boats, but the pot is so big it doesn't seem criminal to take it there. assuming i fold all bad rivers he's laying himself almost 6-1 on the turn which is perfect odds for flushing me.

Have we seen any fancy plays by SB that would make us think we're still ahead? That bet is so weird. Is he suckering you in with a random 8? Why bet there if he has 44 when someone else might bet for him? And if he's betting, why bet just ~25% of pot?

Three problems as I see it: One, could the button squeeze you if you call SB? Two, is the SB so far ahead he's donking the $40 on the turn so he can hammer you for like $125 on the river? And will you call that $125 bet on the river if the board doesn't improve or only if it's an A on the river?

bet more flop at least, maybe even preflop, but def flop.

call here reevaluate river.

I feel like a lot of the time, you can call this and expect a check back on the river. If he does bet again, I think you can make the fold pretty easily. I would expect him to be on the turn with an ace, because he is scared of the 8 (I know it doesn't make sense, but that's rec player logic). I would call because you're getting such a good price and fold the river, assuming you are fairly sure you aren't gonna get squeezed by the shorter stack.

raise to 100$.

Almost always a sign of weakness, most likely has a flush draw trying to see the river for cheap and allowing him to lead out if he hits, and sometimes bluff if he misses. Sometimes a weak ace. Thank him for his $40 donation. Slightly awkward with button behind you but i can see V1 shutting down any non flush river. Raise it up to $100 minimum.

As with most, more pre and flop.

As played I think it is close because of btn (any reads on him?). I guess call and see what happens.

I think that it would be abnormal to see someone with the flush draw put in an excellently timed blocking bet here. I'd say a rersise is giving your opponent too much credit and is also a terrible play if we read the situation as 8 likely. Whereas calling and folding to a strong bet isn't so bad regardless of our read and keeps a horribly played bad ace in.

We don't want 4 calls when we raise a hand that we're looking to play for TP purposes. So raise way more preflop. If we're playing this hand for it's multiway flush/straight purposes, I'd much rather have overlimped and kept my implied odds sky high. All we've done now is created a low SPR against eleventeen people, none of who made much of a mistake preflop due to great immediate odds / good implied, and now we'll be in a tough situation postflop with TP for possibly our stack. Horrible preflop result, imo.

I'd also bet the flop. I'm just really hoping everyone goes away and we can get outta Dodge here. I'd also bet 1/2+ PSB and just try to risk the minimum to try and get this hand over with.

Kinda gross spot on turn. The Button behind us is probably committed with $100 left in a $150 + whatever other money goes in; if we just call, he could easily shove, opening up the door for SB to repop it. We raised preflop and then bet into eleventeen players on an A high flop, and got two callers, and yet this guy is still donking into us and the first caller; that's scary. But there's only 1 88 combo (albeit 3 44 combos); the A4 combos got counterfieted. Is he just attempting to give himself a good price for the draw? Does he have a worse Ax? Good luck figuring that all out. Thanks to preflop, we've set ourselves up for a pretty good chance at making a big mistake (either folding the best hand in a big pot or putting our stack in with the worst of it). I probably fold.

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