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AK on Trips Board, what do you do? AK on Trips Board, what do you do?

04-09-2019 , 02:40 AM
NL 1/2
Hero has run into this situation twice recently. Here, Hero has AK in MP and he opens to 12. It folds to BB who is a 30 yo BG with a 50 VPIP. Stacks are 200 effective. Flop is
666
Pot is 25 and BB leads out for 15.
HERO???
Do you peel here with AK and play it as a draw in this situation?
It happened again with AQ against an aggro player too on a 222 board. Any advice to offer for the future so I play these overcards better?
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04-09-2019 , 02:51 AM
I definitely peel once and re-evaluate on each street. Ace high on these types of boards are usually ahead.

This applies especially when you're in position. You have the whole advantage of V acting first and getting the choice to rep strong hands your self. I usually peel once, then V's usually will check turn if they aren't strong. You can decide to make moves dependent on the player type after. You can also check the turn to realize your equity. The world is your oyster at that point.

OOP, it's a bit harder, you can peel once dependent on the bet size and see if you hit. You can use your image to make a move here or see if V is capable of barreling twice with a bluff. Can call another street at that point just to see and they will probably check back river at that point if they have nothing.
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04-09-2019 , 03:41 AM
It seems like too, that if they bet out you just can't put them on quads too. Unless you're a pro it's hard not to slow play quads!
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04-09-2019 , 07:38 AM
I would peel, too. There's a somewhat realistic chance we are ahead. If we are playing it purely as a draw, we have 24% equity and are getting 27.3% pot odds, so it's a slight losing play if we are purely drawing. Because of the fact that you'll be ahead well more than 0%, peeling is at least break even, probably a little better.
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04-09-2019 , 09:34 AM
Call and take a card 100% of the time.

Most players check to the preflop raiser if they have the case 6. Most likely V has a small or medium pocket pair, or he's stabbing at the pot. You have position. If you miss, and V checks to you, you have a chance to bet and steal the pot from you. If you call the flop, V could think that you have a big pair, and much of the time will fold the best hand on the turn if he checks and you bet.

So you don't necessarily have to hit your A or K to win this pot.
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04-09-2019 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fightingillini
Call and take a card 100% of the time.

Most players check to the preflop raiser if they have the case 6. Most likely V has a small or medium pocket pair, or he's stabbing at the pot. You have position. If you miss, and V checks to you, you have a chance to bet and steal the pot from you. If you call the flop, V could think that you have a big pair, and much of the time will fold the best hand on the turn if he checks and you bet.

So you don't necessarily have to hit your A or K to win this pot.
Excellent analysis man. I actually was ahead in this hand before turn, and in the other hand I hit a lucky river card. The second time I was up against a pair of threes. I thought of Zeebo's theorem after an ace hit on the river and she called anyway.
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04-09-2019 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
Excellent analysis man. I actually was ahead in this hand before turn, and in the other hand I hit a lucky river card. The second time I was up against a pair of threes. I thought of Zeebo's theorem after an ace hit on the river and she called anyway.
Keep that same theorem in mind when you attempt to bluff bet the turn and /or river though.
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04-09-2019 , 04:31 PM
I see two options here:

1(more standard): Call the flop bet easily; on any turned 10 thru A, V will most likely check his low pocket pairs at which point I'd bet, hit or not.(On any non high card turn I'd x back). If he calls turn , I give up on any river I don't improve on.

2: Raise the flop bet to $50 & see if V can withstand the pressure w/ his low pocket pairs (at 1/2 most won't be able to). Shove on any turn card.

Last edited by johnjscott1296; 04-09-2019 at 04:37 PM.
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04-10-2019 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjscott1296
I see two options here:



2: Raise the flop bet to $50 & see if V can withstand the pressure w/ his low pocket pairs (at 1/2 most won't be able to). Shove on any turn card.



We would never raise QQ+ here because we know whats raising into us is a pocket pair and is practically dead.

Think about it, AA if the effective unbreakable nuts here, would we ever check raise and blow someone out of the pot?

If you want to rep AA then flat this bet. Lead turn somewhat big and bomb river.
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04-11-2019 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StinkHolePatrol
We would never raise QQ+ here because we know whats raising into us is a pocket pair and is practically dead.

Think about it, AA if the effective unbreakable nuts here, would we ever check raise and blow someone out of the pot?

If you want to rep AA then flat this bet. Lead turn somewhat big and bomb river.
That's another valid line, sure. However, w/ that one you're only repping aces or kings. I want to rep a wider range of hands when I'm playing, especially if I'm bluffing.

If you have 99-QQ here, raising is good. V can be stabbing w/ Ax & Kx sometimes. Another merit for raising the flop, when an overcard to his pp comes on the turn or river(which one likely will), V will be hard pressed to commit his stack w/ pocket 44s for example.

I think he's calling our flop raise & folding to turn shoves more often than calling our turn pot bet after a flat on the flop. When are we ever bluffing in the latter scenario? Therefore, we get more value in the line I'm advocating for.
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