Agreed. I think the river is a pretty standard check. I don't think he's folding many winning hands, and I think it's certainly possible Villain has KQ and we can win by checking.

How would you play JJ or TT here?

Where did I say open for $30? I said $30 on the flop.

And on the river, it means that it's a decent runout for a triple barrel bluff, but if we're up against a V who never folds KJ/AJ here, it's suicide. We simply have no idea and running triple barrel bluffs against most 1/3 players is a losing proposition.

What's the reasoning behind the turn bet in this hand? I'm not sure anything better (i.e. Jx/Tx) is folding.

Is the purpose of the bet just to keep the initiative, so that Villain won't have a profitable river bluff those times we miss?

Raise size is good pre, your logic is sound for using a sizing that varies based upon position and/or dynamics, not hand strength.

Flop, I would bet a little more, 2/3psb since this range is percieved to hit both blinds more often then you.
Turn, again bet bigger, around 50.
River, terrible card for your range, much better for sb. Your hand also sucks for bluffing. Check it back as this is basically the top of your air range that also blocks his folding range. AKhi may win some %.

Bluff with KcQx or KxQc

Probably a lot of different routes we could go preflop. In the end we managed to get this 3ways and in position, so good result.

I'm also cbetting a smallish amount on the flop. Obviously great equity so it's mostly just a value bet.

I'm probably mostly checking behind on the turn. A lotta pair hands picked up an OESD so those are never folding. TP probably ain't folding to this blank. Getting check/raised by a monster hand and getting blown off our equity would suck. I got my money in good preflop and on the flop, and now I reap the benefits and take my free card.

Against a Villain who can read hands, a bet on the river makes little sense. What, we have 99? Wouldn't 99 check either the flop or especially the turn when called on the flop and picking up on OESD? Would an overpair ever bet this 4-to-a-straight-backdoor-flush board? Did we raise some random 9x hand preflop? We're repping so little, and often our opponent ends up having what we are trying to rep. We also have some semblance of showdown value against a smaller busted draw.

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I'm also surprised so many here are cool with betting the turn given (a) the turn doesn't hit our range at all (i.e. it's not a scary overcard that we can rep) and (b) it often gives Villain pair + OESD (which he's never folding).

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Always_Tilting -> Octavian -> Outdonked

I have always enjoyed his posts. He brings an old world charm to the forums.

But, of course, people play for different reasons. And people come to this forum for different reasons. Personally, if I wish to improve my poker, I play against the machine and watch RIO vids.

If I want to smile, I come here.

I'd rather read 100 outdonked posts vs 1 gobbledygeek

Hey, GG is a cool cat.

And what the heck happened to JB? You know the guy who prefaced every comment with some vague reference to inflection points orbiting around specious GTO nuspeak, culminating in utter nonsense?

Shucks, he almost triggered me once. And that's tough to do.

Respect.

The 2nd point is really the issue here because really what are you betting for value on that river? Pretty bad runout for over pairs, 2p, or even top set. You're really repping a hand like AKc/KQc/98s here. Tough to get folds from even a jack here if he's a competent player.

Bet big otf is great advice, why the hell not? $40 otf and take the free card on that turn, give up river. Just not a great runout to bluff at imo, the cards that actually make your hand would have been the good bluff cards here.

$12 pre is fine, this argument has been made too many times lately.