1-2 home game. Near the end of the night, I'm 600 deep and so is villain. Most others are about 300 deep. Villain has been fairly loose and aggressive, opening and raising preflop to like 30 with hands like A7 suited, though recently he raised to 80, someone else shoved, and he called and won with pocket queens.

UTG straddles 5, villain calls. Another loose aggressive player calls, I raise to 20 with AK suited. Four other people call, when it gets back to villain he raises to 325. The other loose aggro player folds, and now in my spot what do you do?

Unless he is a very aggro 3 bettor i am letting this one go. Getting in 300 blinds pre with AK is pretty rarely +EV in small stakes games, as most peoples stackoffranges pre for this kind of stacks is very nutted.

One of the problems here is that villains monstersizing has left us with zero fold equity. Like, when/if we shove allin with AK in spots like this we need the fold equity getting hands like JJ or QQ to fold some portion of the time. If villain went crazy with for example 99 here, he is still comitted and forcing us to flip for 300 blinds if we stick it allin.

You have a top 5% hand with lots of dead money in the pot. Get it in.

How often does villain limp? Does he have any EP limps? Does he limp if he is first in? Have you seen him make other limp/raises? Does he make bluff raises and squeeze plays? Could the end of the night be changing his play?

For the most part fold. EP limp/raise is generally super strong. Your normally either crushed or flipping. Your getting odds against the flipping hands but most villains have a lot of AA/KK when they do this.

Home game
End of the night
Aggressive V with standard preflop sizes between 15 and 40x
Villain making obvious squeeze with apparently dead money in the pot

if you can't jam it in with a top 5% hand here......leave the game because this V is going to make the rest of your night suck.

Pre seems way to small. Especially the way your game sounds. Straddled pot and two players labeled as LAG are being passive pre, theres $18 in the pot and we raise to $20?

So we invited all the passive players in with the small raise and now the pot sounds like it has ballooned to around $108 if I'm reading this right. Its on the LAG who bets a little less than 3x pot to squeeze all the dead money knowing obviously that we are the only one he has to get through....I think we're in a way better spot when we try to iso one of the LAG limpers in position with a raise of $35-$40 pre and go from there.

As played, gotta fold or shove, calling is out of the question because we're gonna need all 5 streets to realize our equity if we're going with it.

I'm jamming against this player. Snap fold to a nit any time they limp re-raise but not to a LAG who looks to be squeezing for 50bb of dead money.

He rarely limps, and I don't think I ever saw him limp from EP or first in before.
I think I did see him make one or two other limp raises, but hand never went to showdown. By near the end of the night, I mean game probably had another hour left, after 6 hours of play. Villain had only been there for a couple hours though.

I'd just fold and ask him to buy me a beer later.

This spot is close. I'm probably jamming, but a fold is fine too.

Your big mistake was raising to 20. In this sort of loose environment 1/2/5+limp you should be going something like 35 in spots where you're getting called by dominated hands.

Don't think its that close. I've personally never seen anything but KK or AA from a limp raise. "Blockers, yada yada, etc.". Just fold.

Yup, this.

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Very close. I flip a coin with AKs, fold AKo/JJ and go with QQ+.

There's a micro chance he's doing this with AQ as our iso was so small, but we haven't invested too much so don't mind a fold.

who knows what he is doing but its a bad spot to put all your money in

Meh, close. I'd probably just fold but getting it in is fine.

+! to the thread.
Home game dynamics are weird, so with out better reads is a crap shoot.

Based on the OP, it's probably a fold, but we could use some better info on the V as it could make a huge difference.

Never seen a limp-raise weaker than KK/AA except from short-stackers.

Sounds like he limped in expecting a raise with the plan of coming over the top. That is usually AA/KK, few villains do that with anything else.

The late position limp/raise is more likely to be a middle pair and it sounds like villain has a few of those also.

Just because you’ve seen him raise A7 doesn’t mean he is l/rr with A7 for $325. Often these Vs try to fool you by having slightly wider opening ranges but when all the money goes in they just have it. Turbo muck ainec. This is not a huge EV spot you should lose sleep over.

My general rule I use to make exploitable decisions in a situation like this is when someone makes an unusual play, they often have an unusual hand. In this case, it’s an unusually strong play. It suggests an unusually strong hand.

I’d just fold to this size.


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I am not so sure about that. If villains range is nutted here like i suspect would very often be the case- its a pretty massive mistake for us to be stacking off 300 blinds into a range of KK/AA that have us smoked.

Those kind of mistakes will have pretty huge impact on our winrate when we are talking about possibly busting 3x 100 blinds buyins here unneccesary.

If villain’s range is nutted we get all of that EV back by over-realizing with the weaker parts of our range, but I don’t think it is just KK+.

OP says he’s done it a couple times before. I’m going with it.