$1/$2

Eff. stacks ~$290

Villain is in the SB. Flopped a set of 6s first hand after sitting down at table and doubled up. Had built his stack to about $800 through raising and bullying the rest of the table. Older guy. I'm 50 and he was older. Definitely seemed to be showing down a lot of good hands. Very aggressive. Probably was playing like 50/30.

Hero was down early but has battled back and is up a little more than $100.

Hero raises AKo on the button to $15. Villain calls in SB. Everyone else folds. Flop is KK4. Villain checks. I bet $15. He calls. (Pot $60ish)

Turn Q, puts two diamonds out there. Villain checks. Hero bets $30. Villain makes it $130. I have about $230 behind.

I shipped. He folded. Thinking a call is better to let him shove the river. I'm obviously never folding if I call and I didn't think he'd fold KJ/KT hands so he was obviously on a bit of a bluff in that he didn't believe I had a K and thought I was just c-betting a hand that wouldn't call a raise.

It's easy to say that you shouldn't have reraised AI after your opponent folds. This is results-oriented thinking.

TBH, I don't think he would have pushed the river with any hand that he folded, unless he is a maniac who would not have even stopped to consider with what cards you would have called his turn c/r.

I think you played the hand fine.

Easy flat on the turn, calling every single river, bombing every river myself. If he has Kx he will just get it in himself and if he's bluffing let him hang himself.

Also if your image is at all aggro or laggy I enjoy cbetting $20 on flop.

The reason to consider a call is you are in position. Your call gives him a chance to ship the river with KJ-KT.

OOP I'm more likely to just ship here.

Although I'm not saying that reraising AI is better the flatting, do you really think that this Villain is folding KJ/KT for an AI raise of just $100 more?

20-25 on flop.

only shove if opponent is never folding a K here.

Most 1/2 players couldn't let a king go period. He prob had a Q but he would've prob folded river anyway. I guess you have slightly more value with a call since there's. chance he fires river with a Q but I doubt it.

I'd put the question back to you. Has anyone pushed back on him yet, and if so what happened? You said he's been running over the table. That implies he likes to bluff. When people bluff too much, you want to induce them to continue bluffing. By shoving over the top, you've taken that option away. I'd probably call the turn and hope he fired the last bullet. Your turn overshove is very strong and probably gets called by full houses and K-x only. If he was getting aggressive with QX he's probably not ever calling with it, but I bet you he would bluff with it a lot.

I'd recommend stopping at "villain makes it $130" next time. Then there will be some real discussion/arguing itt. I think its easy to see results and say ldo flat.

But yea, I've pretty much never seen someone in 1/2 put in $100+ as a c/r ott and then fold. Like never. Actually I'd venture to say I've never seen someone put a stack in and fold afterwards at any point in the hand.

Think you played fine but as Rumor said you do have position so you could tank flat to keep his spazz in, if you do though you must call ALL rivers. If the J comes out you call.

Villain never folded a king here, this was likely Q spazz.

As played jam was fine. Just don't snap fist pump jam.

Biggest error was flop bet sizing. Needs to be $20 at least. When we miss value otf our error is compounded in missed value ott and otr.

"But yea, I've pretty much never seen someone in 1/2 put in $100+ as a c/r ott and then fold. "

I have. And ironically, at the same casino OP plays at.

No, I don't think he bluffed very much at all. He got called once that I remember where he just folded because he was caught. He was getting a mad rush of cards, too. Showed JJ a few times, AA, a set, top pair almost every time.

Avaritia: I definitely did not snap fist pump shove. I was resigned to the fact that if I was behind, it was just a cooler. I probably took at least 30 seconds before shoving.

maybe I misread what you meant when you said he was bullying the table.

He may have taken your 30 second tank shove to be strength. Generally when I've seen people tank shove live, it's been the nuts. While you don't have that, he could be interpreting it that way. Did you appear to be making a really tough decision while you thought about it?

I mean maybe deep stacked but yea, he left hero $100 behind.

No one has mentioned that flatting is almost stronger than jamming here. Even spazz is not lighting the last $100 on fire unless he rivers the nuts.

Jamming turn is fine/standard.

this was at parx

yeah, i definitely had an anguished look on my face and muttered something like 'i can't lay this down. this would be a real cooler if i was beat' which was stupid.

Then I would definitely flat.

lol why are most of your threads and posts so results oriented? you even started a thread last week about it.

this is a pretty standard spot. i actually like the tiny cbet otf considering its gold. please, lead bigger ott. easiest jam ever. you were gonna leave yourself 100 behind? come on.

if you think it's results oriented, fine, but i want to get the last $100 ... so if that's being results-oriented, oh well.

Easy flat and call any river or shove river if he checks. Reason?
Keep bluffs in his range. There's no value and really no reason to ship on the turn. If he has a flush draw he isnt folding anyways.

Grunch

I think it would be a mistake to not re-raise all-in. If he is doing this with a draw of some sort (seems unlikely, but who knows), then you want to make him put the rest of his money in OTT rather than let him c/f when he misses, and move all-in when he gets there.

Think about what you just wrote. No value OTT because if he has a flush draw he isn't folding anyway... Will he call with a busted flush draw OTR? No. Will he bluff a busted flush draw 100% of the time? Probably not.

I think shove is pretty standard here and best chance of getting it in if he has Kx or picked up a draw OTT. Flatting with only 100 behind looks so strong. My guess is he simply didn't have a hand that could continue. Prob thought you didn't have a K and he could get you off it.

Although there were suggestions to size bets bigger my guess is that in this spot it worked out that you prob got max value from this opponent by inducing him to bet you off the hand.

Agree with suggestion to withold results in OP for better feedback.

The goal shouldn't be to figure out how to have taken his remaining $100.

The goal should be to figure out the play which has the highest EV.

Solved. Getting all the moneys is the highest EV.

LAGs try to bet against weakness as a matter of course. Your small Flop and Turn bets look weak. The scare cards were def there.. and you told him when you R/R you had it. He probably would have bet out on the turn, but it seems to me you really didn't have a plan for the hand from the beginning... other than.. hope to hit, then what?

Against this kinda LAGgy guy, I'm floating a lot, but I'm def going to bet for value on this flop ($35). Maybe my turn bet is purposely made small to induce exactly what he did.. smell weakness and bluff.

But, as others have said, maybe we don't have enough info about this villain.