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AK off, Shove for 100 Bigs? AK off, Shove for 100 Bigs?

08-06-2018 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by druid_br
Would you shove AA? Just make it $80-$90 and shove flop, achieve the same result without turning your cards face up. fold equity is basically the same as well (perhaps even higher if there is a thinking player on the table that would put you in AK if you shove).
If villains want to call off light when we shove because we "obviously" wouldn't shove here with AA/KK, then so be it. We are doing this with stuff like TT/JJ, too, so they get crushed by our range when they call it off with 22 because they're putting us on AK.
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08-06-2018 , 04:05 PM
1) I don't think that by calling $100 PF with crap hands is "playing perfectly against me". If ppl are calling with J7 just to fold when they don't hit the flop it is better than to let them fold PF.

2) Your FE is probably higher by betting PF and Flop, since most ppl will fold flop unless they hit at least TP.

3) You will get to see all 5 anyway, this does not change whether you shove PF or Flop.

I understand the rationale to shove PF, I just prefer to keep my PF raising patterns standard.
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08-06-2018 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by druid_br
Would you shove AA? Just make it $80-$90 and shove flop, achieve the same result without turning your cards face up. fold equity is basically the same as well (perhaps even higher if there is a thinking player on the table that would put you in AK if you shove).
This would be my only issue.

Sometimes a shove looks too much like ak or similar. In which case shoving AA can work.

Maybe the bet that maxes folds here is 113.

But I think trying to scoop the pot now is fine.
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