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08-19-2018 , 04:46 AM
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Effective stacks preflop 250$

3 limpers

HERO(HJ)(100$) : AcKs raised to 20$

1 limper called in MP

FLOP : Ad7d2h

Pot : 43$

V donks 35$

Hero?

Raise V's donk bet or flat call flop bet any TURN card or check call flush IP OTT?

Last edited by smokey93; 08-19-2018 at 04:56 AM. Reason: Corrections
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08-19-2018 , 05:36 AM
Hero only has $80 behind right? I'm going to recommend just shoving then, if he calls it needs to be with the intention of getting it all in on any turn

Villain probably is not bet folding any hands that don't check give up turn anyway

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08-19-2018 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
Hero only has $80 behind right? I'm going to recommend just shoving then, if he calls it needs to be with the intention of getting it all in on any turn

Villain probably is not bet folding any hands that don't check give up turn anyway

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Hi Monikrazy,

Sorry, I posted the wrong info. Has since corrected it
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08-19-2018 , 05:49 AM
I think min raise the flop. I don't think he has a fd but at least we charge a lot if he does. Mainly, very few fold tp to a min raise.

Now we have less than 150 back and it will be fairly easy to milk him. Say 65/85.
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08-19-2018 , 06:25 AM
Sorry man, forgot to fix hero's stack size after I fixed the effective stack size. It's 230$. Maybe moderators can help to fix it if possible. Thanks in advance

Last edited by smokey93; 08-19-2018 at 06:35 AM.
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08-19-2018 , 09:08 AM
I like to flat call the flop, expecting villain to bet again on the turn, at which point we raise all in.


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08-19-2018 , 09:26 AM
Holy Sweet Jesus, just gii


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08-19-2018 , 10:31 AM
I thought about raising V up to 100$ OTF so that I can gii with better odds no matter the TURN card. Any thoughts on this?
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08-19-2018 , 10:43 AM
I think calling, feigning some weakness and then ramming home on a non-diamond turn is the play here.
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08-19-2018 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ES2
I think min raise the flop. I don't think he has a fd but at least we charge a lot if he does. Mainly, very few fold tp to a min raise.

Now we have less than 150 back and it will be fairly easy to milk him. Say 65/85.
Any reason why you would min raise instead of raising it up bigger eg. 3x donk bet amount, since there's a flush draw on the board. I disagree that V doesn't have FD in his donk bet range. Unless if we have reads on V that he wouldn't donk bet draws, otherwise there's still possibility that he has those in his donk bet range.

I do agree that if we were to min raise, V will have a hard time folding his TP. i think if we were to raise it 3x, those hands will still call us

What's your reason for choosing to bet multiple streets instead of just getting it in ASAP since there's flush draw possibilities?

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Originally Posted by hyperknit
I like to flat call the flop, expecting villain to bet again on the turn, at which point we raise all in.


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So, you would like V to bluff so we can value call?
Sounds good

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Originally Posted by jdr0317
I think calling, feigning some weakness and then ramming home on a non-diamond turn is the play here.


As well, what if the diamond comes then? Doesn't that make things trickier for us? What if V bets again on the TURN diamond? Call? Feels weird to call TURN and fold RIVER though..

Last edited by smokey93; 08-19-2018 at 11:15 AM. Reason: Clarity
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08-19-2018 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by smokey93
I thought about raising V up to 100$ OTF so that I can gii with better odds no matter the TURN card. Any thoughts on this?
So, what you're saying is that in the event he flopped 2pr, you're going to charge yourself extra $$ otf & give yourself terrible odds while behind, so that you get a decent price ott?
I would say he shoves with 2pr or a flush draw otf. V needs to be doing this with enough combos of flush draws.
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08-19-2018 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ZuneIt
So, what you're saying is that in the event he flopped 2pr, you're going to charge yourself extra $$ otf & give yourself terrible odds while behind, so that you get a decent price ott?
I would say he shoves with 2pr or a flush draw otf. V needs to be doing this with enough combos of flush draws.
I mean, if V have 2pr or better, they can take my money.

There's only so much combos that beat us currently.

I don't think V will be calling with 72 preflop. A7s,A2s yup. 77,22, looks like they will might be limp calling with those too. So, 5 twopairs combos and 6 sets combos. 11 combos of hands that beat us OTF. I believe V called us PREFLOP wider than that.

There are lots more flush draws, pair+flush draws, pair+bdflush draws, flush draws+bd straights and as well, weaker pairs. So, I think the possibility of V calling our raise is pretty high

Last edited by smokey93; 08-19-2018 at 11:51 AM.
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08-19-2018 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
I like to flat call the flop, expecting villain to bet again on the turn, at which point we raise all in.


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+1
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08-19-2018 , 01:11 PM
Just call down. If he bets big on a diamond turn, fold. He has to be as afraid of you having a flush as you are of him.

Results?
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08-20-2018 , 09:38 AM
Hero flatted V's donk

TURN : 7h

POT : 113$

V betted TURN 85$~

HERO?
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