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10-01-2019 , 07:09 PM
Main villain in this hand just sat down. Only info i have is he is shuffling chips like he’s been to a casino before, and bought in for the max which is 300. We cover.


AhKd Sb. utg 1 straddles 5, utg 2 limps, btn limp. We raise to 30. Only utg 2 calls

AQTss we lead 35, utg 2 raises to 80, hero?

Down to debate flop sizing. I went smaller mainly due to our massive range advantage on this board and not having any reads on villain. His raise doesn’t make any sense to me as his sets should be raising pre, so his only value combo I can come up with is QT and maybe AT, which we block. We also block the nuts which is possible.




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10-01-2019 , 08:34 PM
Well he can have 3 KJs, AsJs, 3 TT that might flat your PFR after limping and a bunch of ace-high FDs in spades. He can also have some Aqo, a few ATs and QTs perhaps. It’s a wet board and you’re blocking the nuts, so I don’t mind a cbet and I don’t think your sizing is that bad. But I guess there’s an argument for sizing up on this board.

In any case, I think your line says you have at least a big Ace and his raise sez he can beat that. You’re getting over 2-1 and I think you’re ahead often enough to call. But what’s the turn plan? You don’t really want a king. There are only 3 J you’d be happy to see. Basically you need a brick runout and will surely face aggression with V in position.

Perhaps raise/fold is better here than calling. A fold is not terrible.
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10-01-2019 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Spanishmoon
Perhaps raise/fold is better here than calling. A fold is not terrible.
No way are we deep enough to raise/fold here. We start the hand with 60BB and have TPTK on a wet board. There are two reasonable options here IMO:

1. Jam it in. TPTK in a 60BB pot. This is never a huge mistake.

2. Call and evaluate. We can call and check the turn. If it's a blank, I think we mostly have to go with it. If it's a spade, maybe we can get away.
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10-01-2019 , 10:10 PM
I like your flop sizing, I think you can bet small here with your entire range. When he raises, call flop and evaluate. Probably fold on spade turns but call on most other cards.. and then fold river if he barrels again.
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10-02-2019 , 12:22 PM
I can go either flat or raise. Comfortable player limping UTG+2 probably does not have a set or AQ (although it's possible). Maybe AT, but more likely a draw.

You can play it safe and flat/evaluate or just raise now and put the pressure on. Either is fine in a straddled pot for basically 60bb.

I might go slightly higher pre with $25 in the pot and OOP, but $30 is OK. I definitely bet more on this draw-heavy flop. He could think your half-pot bet that's barely more than your pre-flop raise is a sign of weakness.
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10-02-2019 , 09:50 PM
I think bigger pre like 45.

Cbet bigger on flop like 70%.

Atleast call the mini raise on the flop. No sense to fold yet.
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10-03-2019 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
No way are we deep enough to raise/fold here. We start the hand with 60BB and have TPTK on a wet board. There are two reasonable options here IMO:

1. Jam it in. TPTK in a 60BB pot. This is never a huge mistake.

2. Call and evaluate. We can call and check the turn. If it's a blank, I think we mostly have to go with it. If it's a spade, maybe we can get away.
Yeah, you’re right that raise/fold isn’t an option at this depth. It’s worth trying to analyze whether jam>call/eval. It can be argued that at this SPR we have no fe so I'm going to ignore it (V has some fe though haha).

There’s around 185 in pot now. It could be argued that V is committed already. If we call there’s 240 in pot and v has perhaps 180 behind. We offer V 7-3 on jam and he offers us 7-2 on our 55 call. Who’s making the mistake given these odds?

If he’s still drawing, he’s giving us a good price and our jam would be a mistake giving him the correct price assuming he has a fd/combo for Straight. This is where the range analysis takes over. If he’s ahead half the time and behind half the time, we should fold since we won’t get the right price. I lean to a fold but it’s close. Jamming probably makes no sense given the math and It’s counterintuitive and against our first gut instinct but it’s hard to argue.

His turn jam would offer us the same 7-3 if we can fade the spade or a bad Broadway on the turn. Here again, it’s a close call and we have to think we’re ahead half the time to make the call.
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10-03-2019 , 07:56 PM
Interesting thoughts. My main thoughts in hand were that is was pretty unlikely that we were behind here (blocking 2 pair/nut combos), and that he should never have a set due to preflop action. I dislike flatting because it allows our opponent to realize his equity by getting to see both the turn and river, as well as getting to put us in a difficult spot on both streets if they so choose. Because of this, hero jams for around 270. Villain looks confused and tank folds while showing an A. We definitely made a note that this particular villain is capable of overplaying medium strength hands.
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10-03-2019 , 08:13 PM
No one likes a flop check?
Leading let’s opponent play fairly perfectly.
Checking keeps our range odd which I’m down for HU OOP
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10-03-2019 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BeakWetter
No one likes a flop check?
Leading let’s opponent play fairly perfectly.
Checking keeps our range odd which I’m down for HU OOP


If we have a spade in our hand I don’t hate it. Without i feel this is a mandatory bet.


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10-03-2019 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by buggits30
If we have a spade in our hand I don’t hate it. Without i feel this is a mandatory bet.


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It’s HU in a raised pot
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10-03-2019 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Koss
No way are we deep enough to raise/fold here. We start the hand with 60BB and have TPTK on a wet board. There are two reasonable options here IMO:

1. Jam it in. TPTK in a 60BB pot. This is never a huge mistake.

2. Call and evaluate. We can call and check the turn. If it's a blank, I think we mostly have to go with it. If it's a spade, maybe we can get away.
I don't like jamming. What could he be raising with here that doesn't have him beat?
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10-03-2019 , 11:15 PM
dislike your flop bet, rather check

SPR 5 on this board seems too big to GII
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