NWI NL 1/2
Villain 1: VPIP 40 or so player, raises rarely, he's in MP. WG about 55 who likes to see a lot of flops. He has $250 or so.
Villain 2: Button, guy is running super well and dominating the table. He's got $1200. He's a WG about 30 and drinking jack straight. He's playing 50% of his hands. He raises only about 5 to 10% of them though.
HERO: Small Blind, I have A K and have $180 or so. I've been there for an hour. I know villain 1 but not villain 2.
It folds to MP player who opens for $7.
Folds to the button who makes it $22.
I call in the Small Blind and MP calls too.
Pot is $66.
I guess the play is to 3! here? I'd rather see a flop first. Mistake? Always a mistake if so, not to reraise?
FLOP
10QJ
I check. Should I have bet here? I flopped the joint! A vulnerable joint though.
MP bets $35
Button calls $35
Hero?????????????????

Shove, ainec

+1

If we don't shove we are encouraging everyone to have a free card (since a call here closes the action) to make their flush or full house.

Charge them a price to draw, our hand is not a guaranteed winner yet.

obviously 4bet pre

I actually like check/shove as short as you are, but like everyone else is saying, at a $180 stack I'm probably 4b! pre.

With AK I'm behind against any pair heads up so generally I like to see the flop. I do think reraising gives me a lot of fold equity and I need to do it more here. It's automatic with JJ-AA but sometimes with AK I call if the raise is large in size.

well, that is true, but you need to stop thinking like that. AK is behind any pair, but against ranges, AK is ahead of most pairs.

Yeah you're right. Honestly, I never thought about "ranges" until about 9 months ago. I need to improve. Thanks for pointing that out.

I 4! pre with your stack hoping to GII and as played this is an auto x/r shove for you.

Easy, easy c/r all-in. Any card higher than a 7 or any diamond is either bad for your hand or bad for V's. You need a non-diamond 2-6 to not scare someone, so yeah, AI.

Make it 125 to go to set up shove on turn and still get value from the flush draws.

Raise Preflop to $60

As played: I'm not sure there is really any other option besides an all in. Get the money in now and either scoop the pot (netting over $110) OR make the FD or 2P+ hand draw against your nutted hand and live with the results (very profitable in the long run). Also if someone has 89 OR K9, they are not folding this flop. You'll get the monies in drawing almost 100%, which is pretty cool.

A raise preflop may have had high fold equity here. $60 pre is a good idea. Villain 1 ended up have KJ and Villain 2 had 10s. Villain 1 (may, not sure) have folded pre but the Villain 2 would not have folded to 60 with 10s.

grunch: Pre, at this stack depth, I prefer a 4-bet here, and I'm happily getting stacks in. I'd go $60 and shove every flop if called.

as played. easy shove and expect to get called at least once.

Here's a piece of advice that probably won't be very useful at all since it happens so rarely, but nonetheless: Never slowplay flopped broadway straight, especially when there was significant action pre. Somebody always has something on any broadway flop, and they won't fold, but the turn and river will often change the texture of the board making it more difficult to extract value.

make it 125 to go and leave 33 behind

+2

Stack size is a little weird for a 4b pre. We are basically committing our stack unless we 4b small in which case it puts us in the same position as calling-- playing a drawing hand oop in a big (relative to stack size) pot. I think at these sizes if we 4b may as well shove and either get all 5 cards or pick up the pot easy.

For those calling for a 4b pre, what size are you going for, and if it's called do you ever fold post?

Yeah I mean it seems like a slam dunk c/r flop although if they have a set or flush draw they aren't folding anyways. very simple hand, would be a better thread if the flop was KJT or something

Hand is pretty straightforward. Like others, I prefer a 4b! pre. There are fewer KK/AA combos that will 5b on us, so TT-QQ will turn up a lot here. With this flop, it is likely we are against a set. Great hand to x/r with, I would stack off here.

If you really wanted to nit it up, you can call here and fold to any scare cards on later streets. At these stacks, villains are going to realize 100% of their equity, they simply aren't folding a set and a nut flush draw isn't going anywhere either, especially with a gutshot broadway draw. Worst case scenario is you would be getting freerolled by AKdd while also having to fade all the outs to a full house. This is a hand that might make the case for nitty play, jamming here doesn't really deny equity to the hands we are concerned with. On the flip side, jamming also doesn't maximize value against sets, since sets aren't folding. We do pick up value against flush draws that call, but nut flush draws have outs to chop as well.

The above is all very MUBSy, not what I advocate. Just throwing it out there for the sake of discussion in an otherwise pretty straightforward shove.