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Hero, I've been at the table about 4 hours. White male aprox. 60. I've been playing around 20% of my hands and my stack is up to aprox. $600. I've played fairly straight forward, only bluffed a few times and haven't been caught.

Villain Asian male about 50-60, has only played about 10-15% of his hands. He has run his stack up to around $900. I haven't seen him do anything fancy besides picking off a couple of bluffs. When he has raised and shown his cards it's been AK or big pairs.

Hero, $600 UTG has AKo and raises to $25
Villain, $900 UTG + 2 RR to $75
folds around to hero
?

pop $100 on top of that to $175

Without knowing more about his pre-flop 3-betting habits, I would venture to say he never folds to a 4 bet, and that ace high is never good here. I flat and re-evaluate on flop.

To answer your question, I doubt this nitty little guy is pushing you around. I would assume he has the goods.

It kind of sounds like you answered it yourself. He's playing >15% of hands and I would assume he is 3 betting far less than that. You said he has shown up with no less than AK or big PP in similar spots so his range is absolutely crushing you right now. Given both of your images I would say it's much safer to believe he has a hand here rather than he is trying to bully you.

Fold.

What's your plan for AK oop vs an incredibly tight range when you are five bet here?

UTG raises get respect and at best someone playing 10%-15% of their hands has a range of QQ+, AK 3betting. Calling is out of the question. You have a RIO hand. I don't mind a click it back 4 bet to 125. AK doesn't stick around and QQ probably calls. KK splits between calling and raising and of course AA goes nuts. Since AK is about 1/2 of his range, it is about BE. Of course, nothing wrong with folding either as long as you don't show and have a decently wide UTG raising range.

I have to agree, I felt that his range was mostly JJ-AA. Since I had AK for blockers to AA and KK I decided to call and see the flop. Maybe that was a bad idea.

Flop K85 rainbow

Hero bets $75
Villain RR to $275

??

Villains range here:

KK,AA,AK.

You are chopping this pot 1/3 times.

If I did call OOP in this hand against this villain I am not donk betting into the guy who 3 bet pre on this board simply because now you have no idea what to do here.

That's what I was thinking too, also wondering if he's one of those who never ever folds KK even with an ace-high board. Wishful thinking, maybe. In any event, I b/f the flop.

Pretty easy fold on the flop after his raise. I find it nearly impossible to believe he's raising with anything you have beat like JJ or QQ. At the absolute best you're chopping and as another poster mentioned, that's 1/3 of the time. The other 2/3 you're drawing dead other than the possibility of a miracle backdoor flush.

I wouldve expected this kind of player to be fairly stubborn even if they dont hit the Flop. Also, this pot is getting quite big in a hurry. Initially I wouldve put V on any pair down to maybe 99, but this would have to come from him showing down some hands during the session. Most posters dont have the holding going below JJ so that tightens things up quite a bit.

You couldve saved some money by 4-betting $60-$70 more PF instead of donking out $75 and getting blown off your hand when an almost perfect board is given to you. Hard to tell if that wouldve made a difference here or not.

It appears that this opponent has either gotten very stubborn here or has no fear of you having KK (mainly because he does!!). Time to fold out to the case K on the board. I have 2 regs I play with that are similar to what you describe and they always PLAY their hands as if they have AA/KK every time they are in a pot. I have found that the only way I can play a hand with them is to get into a raising war with them PF or Flop. If this kind of player makes it to the Turn they probably are never folding.

Next time ... 4-bet/fold PF
As played ... fold out unless you are ready to play for stacks just to check his range ... I would probably leave that up to someone else though!! GL

I really don't like the call PF because we are barely over 100BB deep and we end up check/folding so many flops calling 3bets OOP.

I don't really like the lead OTF either, to be honest. You are most definitely getting called by only KK+, AK(villain dependent?.) If I decided after seeing this flop that I was pot committed and ready to get it in, I would check/raise the flop or lead the turn if it went check/check. Check/raise here for the few times he does have QQ and decides he's going to Cbet this board. He is likely to fold to a donk bet, we get that extra bet that way. And we don't lose any value to his stack off range because he's still going to want to get it in OTT very often.

That being said, AP I wouldn't mind a fold OTF at all, I'm actually suggesting one.

Nothing I villains descrip implies he makes light 3bets in EP.

That's a really small VPIP for Asians. Fold.

Fold pre. Fold flop. U have huge RIO with ak against a tight range. You exploit people for having tight 3betting ranges by folding your ak pre.....I think he has aa or ak here....kk probably flats flop and there is only one combo of kk

U have 36% equity against aa,ak. I don't see why people here 4bet fold ak or call 3bets with ak at llsnl. The VAST MAJORITY of villains have very tight 3betting ranges. I don't care how nitty people think u are if u fold ak pre to a 3bet,folding pre is by far the optimal play as a general rule (I've definitely played against villains at $1/2 whom I'd 4bet get it in wih ak pre for 100bb but they are extremely rare and usually maniacs or lagtards)

Fold preflop to the reraise. An UTG+2 reraise by an old asian man who has been playing tight screams AA or KK only.

Fold on the flop as played for reasons explained by others in this thread.

Grunch

Always assume they have it with bets like this unless you have a better read. Sans read i am folding here

This hand just bugs the crap out of me.

I mean, here we are, with pretty much the ideal flop, and still hating life.

I appreciate those advocating for folding pre. I thought about it but dang! I feel like the biggest nit who ever lived for even thinking about it. But combinatorics aside, how often is this ever anything other than AA? This is one of those times I say, "I shoulda known it," as I'm paying off the nit. Can I change my answer?

. I am on the opposite side of this, I ship it in here and see if he will fold his AK maybe 1010-QQ, We have a A blocker his range isn't entire AA.

Fold Pre, dont call AK out of position to a tight player who 3 betting you into 5 other players. You have way too much reverse implied odds

You shouldn't feel like a nit laying this down pre. At all. It's simply a matter of equity here and there just isn't anything that he shows up with here that you can have dominated. Best case guy has AK and you are going to have to play basically play a pot against a range that is dominating your hand just to get a chop. You are out of position against this guy and will likely have plenty more spots where his tight ways will show him folding to your raises. This is not the right spot. I play LAGier than anyone probably should at LLSNLHE and I would not have called this 3-bet oop with ak vs his range.

I know it sucks and it almost hurts but with guys who play so few hands you need to choose your spots very carefully. Set him up with coolers by having KK or AA. It might not happen but believe me folding doesn't hurt as bad as 3 bet shoving him on the flop and seeing him snap with AA or KK.

So you're a 60yo white male and you're getting re-raised preflop? Easy fold preflop

for asians? What if he was white? That's pretty racist. VPIP is VPIP...

Incorrect. As much as you dislike it, until proven otherwise, stereotypes are there for a reason. It's there because it's true.

mid 20s young white guy? pretty much knows what he is doing.
30-40yo white guy? spewy.
50+yo white guy? gigantic nit.
20+yo black guy? gigantic gambler
asian? gambler/loose.
woman? nitty.