1/2 £ in London
We are pretty deep.
Vilains on my right is a 70yo ladies. Sat down with 100 run It up to 500 by showing nuts after nuts after nuts. Never bluffing . Sometimes value betting thin
She 3 bet 1 time, was called 4 times and overbet 2x pot on AQx and turned face up QQ

Vilains on m right sat down 1 hands before. Seems sticky call 3 barrel AI on KQ9x with KTo

So the hands goes like this

MP opens 10
Co (70yo lady) 3bet to 30
Btn ( hero) calls 30 with AK
Sb 4 bet to 75
Co calls 75

Now remember that sb sat downn2 hands earlier so no particular read. But the way he played the KT before made me think that his range was not particularly KK+

So having around 200£ already in the pot and having 330’ledt I decided to move AI

Would you just have called or did I make the right move ?

I don’t know if it’s spewy facing a cold 4

To be honest with you I’m having a hard time currently and try to question myself. I’ve been loosing a lot of money currently moving AI with AK and always facing nuts
Is it spewy ?

I know it sucks to fold AK preflop but I think it should at least be a consideration here. Old lady's 3bet range sounds like at absolute worst JJ+, AQ+ and as far as 4bets go that sizing was stupid small (not trying to get folds or player is just bad, you decide). For the cheap price though I don't hate a call as long as you know you are comfortable folding an A or K flop when both opponents show aggression. On boards with any 2 Broadway card board I would probably lay it down pretty easily. You're basically playing hoping to hit an A-low-low board

I would probably fold to the CO's 3 bet. If she is as tight as she sounds there isn't much money to be made with AK. Depending on her range and how much she might lose post flop calling may be fine. I would fold to the 4 bet and call. Somebody usually has you crushed. Even if neither of then has AA/KK you have to figure one of them has a pair and the other has some of your outs.

Shoving preflop with AK really depends on opponent, situation and stack sizes. It can be fine to terrible. The thing is even when it is +EV you are usually around 50/50 to win. So you can expect to lose hand after hand even when it is the right move.

In general so many low stakes villains are passive and 3 bet/4 bets are usually very strong hands. So shoving when there has been strong action is wrong more often then right.

I fold to the 3! from described player.

As played, it's hard to argue it's wrong to call the $45 raise getting 4:1 odds and he's gone some moron factor going on, but I really can't imagine what we're hoping to happen postflop. Definitely don't shove.

Important to note that being sticky calling with ****ty top pair has very little reflection on his cold 4! range. Like, it says he's bad and so we can't be too confident in our usual assumptions of what that range would look like, but you certainly shouldn't assume he's aggressive with wide ranges either.

I probably make an exploitable fold to the 3! knowing that it can't ever be that bad only continuing against her 3! with AA/KK/QQ specifically.

From an odds standpoint it's hard to argue that we're not getting a great price to continue, but I really hate this spot in general. Unless SB is splashy and LAGgy, a cold 4! from the blinds represents immense strength. If SB is aware of COs nuttish 3! range then this is only magnified. It feels like CO caps her range by just flatting the 4!, but there are certainly those who will flat with AA/KK. Despite the price that we're getting, I'd just fold. You could call and see a flop, but I think you're often going to be in a spot where you flop TPTK and you're still not confident that you have the best hand.

huh. 45 to call into a 180 pot w/ 285 behind? I don't mind the call, but if you flop TPTK I think you have to go with it for the most part. If you're not going to stack off w/ TPTK just fold, or shove and ride the train. Shoving can't be terrible here after CO flats. In game I flat the 75 and commit to any A or K and probably stab at any flop if checked around to me.

I'm assuming AK is AKo.

I think shoving is bad here.

We've seen the cold 4-bettor play one hand in which he was sticky with TPmehK post flop. That's only one observation, so we couldn't pin too much on it even if it were directly relevant to our current situation. And it's not directly relevant. Playing sticky post is really common. It doesn't mean that V is also 4b light pre (which is uncommon).

3b has repeatedly shown the nuts postflop. While that's not exactly the same as our current situation, it's more likely that a nut peddler post is also a nut peddler pre.

The key difference here is that sticky/passive post does not imply aggro pre, but nuttish post is probably correlated with nuttish pre.

I think we could fold to the 3b, but I don't think the call is terrible IP.

Once we get cold 4b and the lady calls, I'm done with the hand.

FWIW, if we're against ranges of JJ+, AK for the lady and QQ+,AKs for the cold 4b, we have 18.5% equity in the pot. And I wouldn't be surprised if actual ranges were narrower than that. Even if we're against TT+, AK for each, we have only 22% of the pot.

With the right stack sizes, AK can be a great move in hand against a raise or a raise and callers: we have fold equity and probably aren't in horrible shape if called. But it's not a great move in hand in all situations. Most LLSNL V's have a really tight 3b range and even tighter 4b ranges. Against those, we have very little fold equity and V will too often have a premium.

I am folding to the old lady 3 bet here. You are behind her 3bet range too often, and depending on the flop, even with position, this could be difficult to play. If an A hits the flop, and SB shoves and old lady re shoves, then what do you do? Same thing as a if a K flops. If SB checks either of these flops and old lady shoves, you are in the same situation. I may be a littly nitty, but I like to keep my decisions easy. I hate being in situations where I have TPTK and get jammed on, and in this situation, I am guessing that not matter what the flop was, one of these players would have jammed.

SB reps AK/KK+
CO reps AK/QQ+

.. you could call. But only an Ace on the flop will make you kind of happy. I guess it`s best to fold pre after the 3bet and fold pre after the 4bet. Stacking of on Kxx won`t show a profit in this setup.