Hero on cutoff ($400): white male in early 20's, has been tight aggressive long ball type strategy. Getting calls preflop but bets post flop get a lot of respect.

Villain in hijack ($250) : Loose aggressive male in late 20's. Has played with hero before, and often gives Hero's bets and raises lots of respect.

Villain on button ($200): Old Nit, plays conservative and finds the fold button easy.

Villain in middle position ($120): loose passive fish.

Live 1/2 game
Preflop:

Middle position limps

hijack raises to $8

Hero re-raises to $25 with AKs

button calls $25

Middle position calls

Hijack calls

Flop: (~$100)

T 7 3 rainbow

middle position checks

hijack checks

Hero Bets $100: Hero has 2 overs, backdoor straight and Flush, plus re-raised preflop.


I am not sure if played this hand right, I think my c-bet sizing could be smaller, and some where in the realm of 2/3 instead of full pot.

Pot is $100 (duh, sorry) plus one limp minus one rake.

$100 is too much, we can get the same information and probably the same result for about a 2/3 pot bet.

Either one of our Villains will call either bet (if they are going to call) for the same reasons, but when we lose the hand we lose less with the smaller c-bet.

I would have cbet to about 65 into 100 but my only real concern is the nit on the button and the HJ who usually folds to your 3bets so I would probably pass this one up because of them.

I think checking back with a super nit behind is best. If he bets, ez fold, otherwise you have a chance to pick up equity OTT.

No matter what your image is, c-betting a missed flop vs. 3 players will leak chips long term.

+1 to samo

This would be a good time for a delayed c-bet on the turn. If a brick comes on the turn and it checks around to you then you can be positive nobody is slowplaying and everyone missed.

If OMC wasn't on the button then I love cbetting this on the flop. But nits don't call 3bets preflop without really strong hands. There isn't much in the nits range that is worse than JJ+. Given the nits stack size and size of the pot, there is no way he is folding an overpair, especially when your overbet gives him such good pot odds and looks like a steal attempt.

Think this is a pretty clear check back - if our classification of B is accurate ... he has an over-pair or TTT here quite often.

Sizing makes no sense... you are better off shipping it than betting $100... you have to call AI anyway vs any of the Vs after betting $100.

If we must c-bet here... I would go like $40 ... board is relatively dry and we should have plenty of equity when called and can always barrel / ship good turn cards (i.e. Spade or Qx). (Not that we need to be balanced in this spot... but if we have QQ+ I think we should also use this sizing).

I disagree and think that not c-betting after 3 betting preflop will leak more chips long term. The old nit has a strong range by calling preflop but probably has decided he is set mining with hands like JJ and QQ since it was 3 bet preflop, especially if you continue showing strength. I wouldn't bet 100 though. You can find out the same information if you bet 50-60 range. I just hate giving up after taking control preflop. If you check, your hand is face up and they can play perfect against you. In my opinion, it's not a good board for a delayed c-bet because they will put you on the hand that you actually have by you check on the flop.

What is your plan for a blank turn if called?

Do you think nit is folding QQ/JJ to a flop bet?

Betting suggested $50-$60 gives a hand like 98 implied odds in a multi-way pot.

Yeah - we should never be trying to get OMC off of JJ+ and if that is the plan just shove lol

We are not betting for value / to protect our hand right? I do not think giving 98 improper price to draw is relevant... If we c-bet it would be purely to TID and only continue when called if we improve (including FDs and potentially Qx as a scare card).

If you're not going to c/f, bet $40. No matter how much you bet, you're not getting AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT/77/33/AT/98 to fold. If you c-bet the point is to get 99/88/66/55/44/22/Ax no pair/KQ/KJ/QJ to fold, and $40 accomplishes that.

Honestly, the c-bet is dead. No one respects it because everybody expects it.

For this reason I don't mind the $100 ... if you're gonna do it, do it big and get everybody's attention. Make them really think about it.

But I would definitely check.

3-betting preflop is good, sizing is good (anywhere from $24-$30 is good IMO).

I don't like the postflop bet, I think it is a check. If you flopped better, like a flush draw, a gutshot with a backdoor flush draw (345, QTx with one of your suit, etc.) I would consider c-betting against multiple opponents.

But you are just not going to get enough folds on this board with a c-bet, I think it is a losing play. Nit on the button cold-calling a 3-bet preflop is almost exclusively pocket pairs (maybe AK or AQ) and it isn't a particularly threatening board postflop if I'm sitting there with 77+.

I'm conceding this hand unless I pick up equity on the turn (assuming nit checks flop).

The plan is to shut down on the turn unimproved. I think a lot of nits will fold QQ and JJ. Nits are not just nits because they call only with a tight range. Nits are nits because they fold too much. I would only bet the flop if I had a good image and hadn't been 3 betting preflop any or very frequently.
I'm pretty nitty myself so I keep a good image. If you've been splashing around in every pot and been caught 3 betting light. Of course the correct play is to just give up when you miss the flop once 3 other people have called to see a flop.
So what I'm trying to say is that you need to decide whether or not to c-bet this flop based on your perceived image.

grunch
I'd usually take a free card on this flop. To keep pot smaller and hard to bluff three players, who could easily just be waiting for your standard c-bet. Think there's a lot of T's and draws here that could be sticky. Also, any overcard, along with 2 more checks, gives more credence to a Turn bluff I'd say. Also, their actions on Turn will be a lot more info to evaluate. If I did bet Flop, closer to 2/3 pot and probably with goal of seeing free River.

Two things:

Firstly - 3bets are generally perceived as very strong at 1/2 live and mostly they get called by TT+ AK and suited Broadway.

Secondly - at 1/2NL most players struggle to fold overpairs or top pair.

These observations from my extensive experience would cause me to check this flop vs 3 players 100% of the time. Unimproved on the turn facing any reasonable bet I would throw my hand away without a second thought.

$100 is a little big. I would have gone $65-$70 and then shut it down on the turn if called and unimproved. If button is as described he is usually folding QQ-JJ and he would have 4bet AA-KK pre because he wouldn't want to go multiway with those hands.

That's reason to bet smaller not bigger.



Anyway, another thing to consider if you c-bet, is how often 3 people need to fold. If you bet the 2/3 PSB you mentioned, OP, that's $65. So how often does a $65 need to get through? A $65 bet into a pot of $100 needs to get through (65)/(100+65) = ~40% of the time. But each guys needs to contribute to that 40%. So each guy needs to fold ~74% of the time, 74%*74%*74% = 40%.