Hero 330$ 1/2 live

Co has 250$~

Hero in BB with AsJc

Folds to co who makes it 10$, btn calls, hero raise to $40, co calls

Flop ($91) TK8r
Hero?


No reads on villain, he just sat down 15 min ago or so. If I was suited I think I flat pre but being unsuited is this an ok 3bet?

I like squeezing in this spot, but I'm making it $55 - $40 is too small.

As played, on the flop I go $50

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I dont like it, especially against a player we don't know much about.

And yes, the sizing was too small.

i fold pre... 3b OOP against an unknown with AJo seems like spew to me.
as played i cbet 55

Goal of the 3 bet is to get heads up. Accomplished. Extra money is wasted money.

AQ is a definite value 3 bet against co raise and bu call. AJo can't be a fold. It's either a value raise or a call.

$50 pre now bet $30


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Your statement is results oriented...Just because it worked this time doesn't mean it's the right play every time

Of course it is. The result he wanted was the result he got. Everything in poker is results-oriented. That's why there's a saying: "only bet as much as necessary to accomplish the result you want."

And guess what - 55 would have worked, but why bet 55 when 40 works too?

so your goal in this hand is to play a 3 bet pot with AJo oop v an unknown heads up?

Wasn't really thinking, Squid face makes a great point that our goal here is to take it down pre.

With that being said, the logic that you're applying to your argument could be used in the same way to praise a bad move - i.e. we're in BB in a 5 way limped pot, flop comes KT7r, SB leads for pot, we shove all in with 32o for 100 BB and everyone folds...We got the result of folding, yet it's still not a play we want to ever be making.

I either wanted to take it down pre or make it heads up. I agree the sizing was too small because we usually want to take it down pre with this hand. AJo seemed like a decent squeeze hand. My main goal isnt to "play this hand oop against an unknown".

I cant just 3bet my value hands. I figure I need to balance a bit. AJo is too weak to call so its either a raise or fold imo. Maybe not against an unknown you might be right. But I'm also unknown to him so you have to take that into consideration too. How does he know if I'm capable of a squeeze or only raising for value.

Anyways I ended up betting 50 on the flop. He calls. Brick turn so at this point I give up. I check he checks, brick river I check he checks. He had AQo so he took it down.

fold pre

probably fold AQo too

its 1/2 nl, unknown pfr = i have the nuts (until proven otherwise with reads)

yeah its nitty but i think the biggest winners at 1/2 nl are probably total nits to the point of absurdity

as played

Phraust - wasnt talking to u was addressing bailashtoreth's comments above mine.

That being said - you have to have some kind o read. ANYTHING helps. Is it a 90 year old drinking black coffee with a newspaper? is it a kid wearing all kinds o poker garb. All of this stuff can help in this type of spot. Cuz honestly this is the exact situation where you can incinerate a lot of hard earned $ where a tiny little thing can tip the balance and lead you into the right direction

AND you do not need to balance in 1/2 imo.

Call pre.

Kind of amazed at the people saying fold pre here. I'm not sure 3betting is the best but if we fold AJo we're folding our BB over 95% of the time to a CO open? That's ridiculous. If we're going to play like that might as well fold everything that's not KK+.

I call or raise depending on what sort of reads I have. As squid face said, just looking at the guy might give you something. If he's old and sipping coffee I call, against some others I 3bet.

As played I think it's close between cbetting and checking on the flop but prob make it 50 or so.

You should probably refrain from posting feedback until you have a little more experience and have posted a few HHs yourself, IMHO.

Fold pre without any reads.

Not folding and 3betting are two different things, I never said don't call with hands with high implied odds/nut potential, I just said don't fold AJo BBvsCO.

Wih respect to the OMC stuff, just because a guy is old doesn't mean he raises QQ+, and deviating to such a large extent based solely on appearance can get you burnt pretty quickly. You really fold everything that's not QQ+ and AK just because a guy is old? I've had old guys triple barrel bluff me with 84o on scary boards.

And talking about my experience when you don't know anything about me is a little out of line imo, poker experience is not measured in HH posted on 2+2 and just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I don't have a right to post.

It would be interesting to keep a running count of threads featuring AJo ITF. AJo is where grinders’ money goes to die. There are at least 5 threads per month of folks getting in deep doo-doo with this hand.

Perhaps Mike Starr or someone else with thousands of hours has kept statistics on profits with AJo. It would form the basis of a fascinating conversation.

Folding pre-flop is ridiculous.

Also lol at whoever suggested to 3-bet only QQ+ and AK. It's probably better to never 3-bet than do that. This hand is a fairly poor 3-bet however.

Sorry to come off snarky. Just don’t think your advice was sound and reflects inexperience is all.

actually it is not. Most people suck post. This is 1/2 not T/20. And a hand like this oop v an unknown. I know I can play it profitably and I know u can too. But we are not talking about us. We are talking about dudes trying to plug leaks who get lost in hands all the time. Look at GG for instance. I can almost guarantee he turbo mucks this to a 5 bb open in his 1/3 game and his w/r at 1/3 is prolly better than 95% of the players in this forum.

So for guys winning under 5 bigs per hour I honestly think this should b a fold pre