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07-27-2010 , 03:33 PM
1/2 100 SL

I have 500BB
Villain 300BB

6 Handed

$5 BB on this hand

UTG Limps $5
Hero UTG+1 AJo (red) raises to $23
UTG+2 calls
BB calls

Flop ($92)

9 J 9

BB bets $25
UTG folds
Hero?
UTG+2 folds

Turn (?)

8

BB pounds $100 into the pot
Hero?

BB is this emotional chemical imbalance lady. When she loses a hand she throws her cards and starts going crazy and playing semi-loose. She has recently started to tighten up, but had just a lost a hand and then won a hand two hands prior to this. She's just crazy and is the only reason I am still there. I think she's stuck like 2k.

OTF the dealer stacks the 3 cards and only the window card is showing which is the 9. She's says "wait".. and the dealer stops. The she says, "Lets just stop right there and play that card." Dealer continues to do his thing.

I have seen her stack off light and in situations where it was just lol obv that she was beat. Like I said though she has recently tightened up (a little). She's definately a pre-flop G (loose passive) who doesnt have a clue about postflop play. Needless to say any chance I get to play a pot with her I look like this>

Last edited by AcePlayerDeluxe; 07-27-2010 at 03:39 PM.
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07-27-2010 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
OTF the dealer stacks the 3 cards and only the window card is showing which is the 9. She's says "wait".. and the dealer stops. The she says, "Lets just stop right there and play that card." Dealer continues to do his thing.
I fold
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07-27-2010 , 03:43 PM
Do you think she actually liked that 9c? If theres anything at all she likes about that card, it means its time for u to gtfo this pot. Turn bet makes me think she has trips based on your description of her, maybe a flush if she dislikes you for any reason.
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07-27-2010 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crsseyed
I fold
OTF? FWIW I seen her stack off 150BB on a JJ66 board with 65 against the tightest player at the table. Flop JJ6. She donks. Tight guy calls. Turn 6 she bets, tight guy raises, she goes all in.
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07-27-2010 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
OTF? FWIW I seen her stack off 150BB on a JJ66 board with 65 against the tightest player at the table. Flop JJ6. She donks. Tight guy calls. Turn 6 she bets, tight guy raises, she goes all in.
Fold turn
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07-27-2010 , 04:30 PM
I agree fold turn. She has trips often as well and pretty much every draw got there. There are better spots to stack her.
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07-27-2010 , 05:08 PM
pick a better spot against this villain IMO
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07-27-2010 , 05:15 PM
Why such a big raise pf? Is that a standard raise for this game?

It is kind of hard to decide what the turn means without knowing what you did on the flop. I assume you just called the flop given what was said. If so, I'm folding the turn.
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07-27-2010 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Why such a big raise pf? Is that a standard raise for this game?

It is kind of hard to decide what the turn means without knowing what you did on the flop. I assume you just called the flop given what was said. If so, I'm folding the turn.
It was a $5 BB with one limper already. Pretty standard raise when its $5 to go IMO.

I laid the HH out like that so one can take both routes.

irl I called the $25 OTF.
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07-27-2010 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
1/2 100 SL

I have 500BB
Villain 300BB

6 Handed

$5 BB on this hand

UTG Limps $5
Hero UTG+1 AJo (red) raises to $23
I don't like the preflop raise with AJ off.
Is it a straddle? Why $5 BB?
Is it 6 handed because of walkers or short game?
How close are you to the button?
Sweeten with AJ but not raise to $23.
What do you hope to hit with AJ?
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07-27-2010 , 09:29 PM
call flop, call turn, soul read river

Would she shove KJ on river? If u act like u might raise turn, it will help you read her on river, but she could be lunatic so i dunno.
But im calling turn against a maniac.
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07-27-2010 , 09:36 PM
Meh, I'd literally fold this turn and not think much of it against just about any villain except the exact type OP describes . I'm tempted more towards the 'call turn' camp despite that utterly gay turn card but it'd require her to give up the river a large amount of the time, which I'm not too sure would happen.
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07-27-2010 , 09:57 PM
AJo is such a RIO hand when you're this deep. I would fold turn (since I'm a nit) because I have no idea what villain is doing.
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07-27-2010 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cbarton
I don't like the preflop raise with AJ off.
Is it a straddle? Why $5 BB?
Is it 6 handed because of walkers or short game?
How close are you to the button?
Sweeten with AJ but not raise to $23.
What do you hope to hit with AJ?
The BB and straddle can be anything up to $100. Ive seen people post the BB to $40 in this game. Its good action!

6 handed because we are short

I raise with AJ because I crush souls in this group of players. Really theres only one person on the table I worry about and he's a fellow 2p2'er. Other than that the rest are two ultra nits that play their cards face up and the other two are loose passive give their money away types. AJ is easy to play in this specific line up post flop (not getting owned too often) and besides its 6 handed, when I played online all I played was 6 max. I feel my edge is like 100x. I really didnt expect to get too many callers, but I did. I wajted heads up with psycho lady. Im two off the button so UTG+1 or HJ. W/e they calll it these days.
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07-27-2010 , 10:37 PM
I agree this is a laugh-and-fold on the turn. The board sucks so bad its not worth it to continue for the times you are ahead, and fold is super standard... if we didn't have the read that villain is over-emotional spew-monkey!

I have to go with fold. Yes, she could be spewing with worse here, but a couple things line up with she isn't. First, you said she loosens up and spews when she loses hands. She is stuck, but the last hand she played she won, so that should make it less likely she is in spew-mode. (???) And the hand you describe in post #4 indicated level 1 thinking ("I haz a boat!" with no regard for the other player's cards), and her turn bet is saying she has "it". I don't know what "it" is, but there's not a lot of "it" you beat when you consider how much of "it" are trips/straights/flushes.
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