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02-10-2021 , 02:22 PM
1/3 streamed game.

I have $1.1K in CO, Villain has $632 in HJ.

+1 (moderately aggressive, loose) raises to $13.
+2 calls (ABC/tight player) calls.
LJ folds
HJ calls (average/above average 1/3 player) calls.
I have AJ in CO. I make it $60.

Sizing? Looking back with a raise and two callers, probably could have made this $70-75.

All fold to HJ.
HJ calls.

Flop QT5 Pot $150.

HJ checks.
I bet $80.

Half pot seemed like a good bet heads up, I have overcard and gutshot, no flush draws, but this board can connect with a lot of what he has. I figure if he is cold-calling the raise and 3-bet, he's not super strong, maybe has a pair, and one bet should get him to fold 99 or worse. Could also have suited hands and would fold as no flush draw is at unless he paired.

HJ calls after thinking a while.

Turn is 5 Pot $310.

Villain has $481 behind. Any bet I make of reasonable size will leave him with a <pot sized bet and I can't really put a third barrel on the turn. 5 is unlikely to have helped him. I feel like I can bet here again, and if he has a queen, he feels like if he calls here, he is going to have to call off his stack on the river too, so a decent bet will make him commit and be tougher to call. I still can hit the K for the nuts, A has a good shot of being good if I hit.

I bet $175.

This should move him off most tens and weak queens. KJ calls here, which I don't mind.

Villain tanks, and calls.

River is Q Pot $660.

Villain checks quickly. He has $306 behind.

I opt to check behind.

My thoughts is he's probably folded any non-queen hand that beats me, queen is clearly not folding. If he has KJ, I'm good anyway.
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02-10-2021 , 02:29 PM
What’s +1’s stack? Your three bet seems pretty small against a $13 open and 2 calls given how deep you are; $60 isn’t even 5x. I’d say $70-$75 is the absolute minimum and if you’re deep with +1, more.

On stream, I’d be tempted to be a lot more balanced in this scenario, so I do like picking a standardized half pot sizing.

Given your turn read, I like the check. Sometimes you accidentally win against KJ/J9 even though you block those. And there’s no way he’s folding like any of the value that you mentioned on the turn.

What’s more interesting is the strategic decision differences from being on stream on the river if we have like 98s. On stream I probably jam to not give sizing tells away. In a regular game I might try to get away with a cheap bluff in the confidence that he wouldn’t hero me with KJ high


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02-10-2021 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
What’s +1’s stack? Your three bet seems pretty small against a $13 open and 2 calls given how deep you are; $60 isn’t even 5x. I’d say $70-$75 is the absolute minimum and if you’re deep with +1, more.

On stream, I’d be tempted to be a lot more balanced in this scenario, so I do like picking a standardized half pot sizing.

Given your turn read, I like the check. Sometimes you accidentally win against KJ/J9 even though you block those. And there’s no way he’s folding like any of the value that you mentioned on the turn.

What’s more interesting is the strategic decision differences from being on stream on the river if we have like 98s. On stream I probably jam to not give sizing tells away. In a regular game I might try to get away with a cheap bluff in the confidence that he wouldn’t hero me with KJ high


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+1 started the hand with $400. FWIW, someone raised to $15 about 3 hands prior, I had KK, I 3-bet to $60, and everyone folded. Most stacks are around $500. This game is really hard to get a sizing that gets 1-2 callers, either you get 5 callers or 0. In this hand, 0 callers is fine by me, taking down a pot with a 3-bet here is a nice win.

I would have liked the ability to pull a 3 barrel on this one, just my sizing didn't let it happen. But I can't see what he arrives at at the river that isn't a queen, or something that I beat anyway. Are there any hands you can place in his range here that will call those 2 bets, but would fold the river?
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02-10-2021 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
+1 started the hand with $400. FWIW, someone raised to $15 about 3 hands prior, I had KK, I 3-bet to $60, and everyone folded. Most stacks are around $500. This game is really hard to get a sizing that gets 1-2 callers, either you get 5 callers or 0. In this hand, 0 callers is fine by me, taking down a pot with a 3-bet here is a nice win.



I would have liked the ability to pull a 3 barrel on this one, just my sizing didn't let it happen. But I can't see what he arrives at at the river that isn't a queen, or something that I beat anyway. Are there any hands you can place in his range here that will call those 2 bets, but would fold the river?

Besides a sticky AT, no. And even that may not fold now


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02-10-2021 , 05:08 PM
Pre slightly bigger
Flop cbet slightly smaller because our hand might fall under the category of barreling so let's keep spr/villain range slightly wider.

Range neutral turn card id bet again since our range is uncapped and villain is mostly capped having cc original raise and calling a 3b. If he's average or above average, he shouldn't have top set, maybe set of 5s and Tens exist. Us blocking his KJ doesn't help, but blocking AQ, and QJ does help.


Villains logically value range seems to be KQ maybe some AQ. It would suck when we x back and villain flips over 88-99. Id expect villain to have that pair combos and Qx majority of the time and not a Tx. I dont see what Tx gets to the river.

Ap, check back and hope were against a busted draw but I expect to lose to a Qx here most of the time.

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02-10-2021 , 05:20 PM
Results:

Spoiler:

Villain shows T9

He's a regular I play with a lot, and mentioned to me he was going to tell me after the stream why he called the turn. Must have had some kind of tell on me. Saw him a few days later, he mentioned he was gonna tell me again away from the table but he went bust and left before he had a chance.


I do think he folds if I 3-barrel it but most times here I'm good or against a queen, and a shove is a punt.

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02-10-2021 , 05:36 PM
I'm going to guess that his reasoning is that if you were to actually have AA or KK, with the turn being a blank 4th suit rainbow and since you now beat QTo or QTs, that you would be betting 1/3rd pot or smaller to extract value from exactly KJ or J9 or crying Qx to call
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
Results:

Spoiler:

Villain shows T9

He's a regular I play with a lot, and mentioned to me he was going to tell me after the stream why he called the turn. Must have had some kind of tell on me. Saw him a few days later, he mentioned he was gonna tell me again away from the table but he went bust and left before he had a chance.


I do think he folds if I 3-barrel it but most times here I'm good or against a queen, and a shove is a punt.

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02-10-2021 , 06:16 PM
Assuming you are 3 betting something like QQ+ AJ+ I'm probably either checking or jamming this turn based on live reads. with AA and QQ I'd size down and try to suck out value over two streets.
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02-10-2021 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tdammon
Assuming you are 3 betting something like QQ+ AJ+ I'm probably either checking or jamming this turn based on live reads. with AA and QQ I'd size down and try to suck out value over two streets.
+1 to check or jam turn.
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