NWI NL 1/2
Hero is in a very passive game. Hero is in the BB with AJ. 5 limps to Hero and SB folds.
I elect to check flop. Is this an auto-raise here every time? Game is very "friendly" and no LAGs seem to be at the table. Should I have made it 15 here when it came to me? Or 12? Is it a mistake every time to just check here?
Pot $13
Flop AAJ
Hero checks.
Villain 1 bets 10. He's in MP 1 75 yo WG who has $300. He likes to bet flops but gives up easily.
Villain 2 calls. She's in MP 2 75 yo WF with $150. I think this is his GF. She calls 10. She is very very passive and hasn't raised yet in 2 hours.
Folds to Hero who pauses and calls. Everyone else folds.
Should I have C/Red here? I thought I flopped the world.
Pot $43 Turn 8
Hero checks, Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 bets 10.
Do I keep this charade up or do I bet big here as a checkraise?
I feel like with these 70+ players I'm lucky to make a dime off of big hands. Should I just treat these oldsters like everyone else? It's like they put a civilized trance on my game lol.

5 limps in a passive game and OOP

20 preflop

OK, I'm going to do a separate post about all the calling with AK and AQ in these games. I think I have to raise and proceed cautiously with AJ/A10 from now on.

in live low stakes nl these villains do tend to limp Ak Aq yes however,

they also limp A rag and all the other garbage

AJ is to high in our range we need to raise it pre

then just play good postflop

example flop comes

A 7 5

we bet get a call

turn- 9

we don't have to bet here everytime we can check and then bet river if check back

its not a 3 street hand

or bet check call river

these players don't bet river large either unless they are nutted

this is ofcourse villain is nitty passive

I think I need to start betting AJ pre and then proceed with caution thereafter. I'm going to change with it. I agree. It's too strong to check. This game was about the most passive I've been in recently.

At a tighter table if it somehow limps to me in the bb I would probably just check, but if people are playing garbage and calling raises you can raise for value.

These hands are annoying because there is so little they can call with. I think checking flop and turn is ok. On the turn its time to raise. It doesnt need to be much. $30 seems fine. Then probably 2/3 on river or more if you think they hit something good.

Don't be worried about the times AK/AQ will limp/flat your raise with AJ. Those will be easily offset by the times you get called by worse. Of course, you'll run into AK/AQ once in a while, but back yourself to be the better player and suss these out.

Slowplaying/not raising enough misses so much opportunity to get money into the pot. In passive games somebody has to drive the betting, might as well be us since that arms us with initiative. Never try to get tricky or slowplay at these stakes. Good things happen when you bet, bet, bet.

I find I do the same when stuck in a passive game I tend to follow along and continue the passivity, which leads to mistakes. I in real time generally do the same thing in these games and check. I think it’s just too passive and can actually get us in some more tricky spots then if we raised. I’m making a more conscious decision to raise these hands now. More agro pre flop less agro post flop seems to be a nice trick in these passive games

You gotta bet this turn unless you plan to check/raise

On that flop, they aren't folding AK, you can raise it and just start firing

Given the action, one of them is going to be done putting money in soon anyway since there are only four aces in the deck. Get what you can from the old guy when he has AK-AQ is my plan.

Great point. The old lady turned out to have AK. I actually saved money when the K came out on the river.

She bet 10. I minraised to 20. She bet another 25. I said, "You have AK don't you? No, I guess you wouldn't raise with it." I paid her off though and the table gasped. She wasn't going to fold regardless. I started off happy to get 10 bucks and I ended happy she didn't shove.

Of course these passive old guys limp big hands but thats not a reason to limp AJ. Lets say they limp AK and you raise AJ.

Whats the most likely scenario? You both miss the flop and guess who wins?

pre IDK, im fine with limping and seeing a flop but you need to understand that its LIMPED POT and when money goes in on a A high board your toppair is mostly not going to be good, but considering the action and your table, AJ is the same hand as AK in this "specific" spot, so wouldnt you raise with AK ?
as for the hand, you flopped the world so I dont mind your flop line, but turn I would lead out for at least $25 / $30, any ace should give you action and draws should come along to, may even force an Ax to raise you here, also leading builds the pot , calling $10 seems weird lol / annoying, and raising his turn bet looks too strong,

I've actually never thought about it that way. Sterling analysis and I think you just saved me a post on the topic. Thanks.

Eventually you need to put some chips in the pot. Turn seems like a good time. Either you’re going to cooler a smaller boat or big A or you’re not. That’s the only range I’d worry about. I’d probably make it $45 on the turn. Still a small raise but allows you to go ~$125 on the river if called in 1 soot, ~$150-175 if called in both.

I raise pre all day here with AJ.

On the flop, I actually like a c/r to like 40. Get another Ace to commit early. You aren't going to make that much more from a J anyway, so if they both fold, neither of them had a big hand.

In this passive game i should have raised with AJ. I'm changing my ways. Thanks for the advice.

Raise pre is certainly good. I def raise with AJs. If we are raising here we need to make it big to get all folds, HU, or 3-way only. $20+ minimum.

I dont really like a x/r here. There is no flush draw for them to chase, they are prob folding a jack, and we keep ranges wider and allow people to continue bluffing by flatting. They might even hit their straight draws and pile money in.

Vs Jx we can prob get 1 more street of value from a bad station/fish. Esp if another J rolls off.

If they have an Ace, they’re going balls to the wall with the hand regardless of the runout, so i dont see any reason to fastplay here