AJ 1/2 nl gets put into tough spot
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Local 1/2 NL Game. Hero probably viewed as tight by the table. Have been largely card dead / not making many hands. (470)
Relevant History
The hand just before the hand in question, hero just won a decent sized pot against the main villain in the hand wherein hero flopped the second nut straight after opening T8s from the button. Villain led flop, hero made a big raise which V called and V check folded turn.
Villain seems somewhat competent, although I get the sense that he is tired. He also seemed quite aggravated folding the previous hand. (205)
OTTH
Folds to hero in cut-off with AJ, hero opens to 10. Only Villain calls from bb.
Flop AT7dd (we have J diamonds.) V checks. Hero bets 15. V calls.
At this point I think V has worse aces, some worse pairs and could have a ton of draws (although I don't suspect he has anything as good as a combo draw as I think he plays back at me with those, especially in light of the previous hand).
Turn (50) 8d - villain leads for 45. Hero?
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Could you please specify which cards have which suits on the flop?
That often lets us make assumptions about villains hands.
Just judging by the betting pattern and sizing by villain, I am strognly leaning towards a hand like A8, A7, A9, maybe with one heart as well. I dont see opponents at that level lead out with flushes when the turn hits oop. I would definitely call and evaluate the river. You have four 9s, 3 Js and possibly 9 flush cards.
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Is the Ad on the board? Definitely fold if so, fold anyways if not.
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Sorry, the ace was the off-suit card.
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This is a fold. What hands do you beat at this point?
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He's pot committed if you call, so you just need to know if this is a good spot to stack off with this guy. Do you think he would lead the 45 w/o wanting to stack off?
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fold turn > call and check/fold river
That turn sizing is scary. his range looks like hands that beat you in panic mode + hands with good equity against you. In cases where you're ahead on the turn I don't think you have to worry about him bluffing the river with a hand like KdTx if it bricks out, so it probably wouldn't be a huge mistake to call and then fold the river if he fires again. I don't like the fact that we are essentially bluff catching against a strong range here though. I prefer just letting this one go on the turn.
Interesting hand.
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Fold.
Also, it seems like this V wants and expects action from you now. And you'd be bluffcatching on the river. Gross. It is possible that he doesn't fire again and that you're good sometimes, but I do not think calling is the best play.
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Call in position evaluate rivers, too much equity/way to exploitable to fold here
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Yeah. I ended up flatting turn and folding to a ship on a blank river. My thinking was that he would give up on river with his missed draws and worse value hands.
I think flatting the turn might be a leak. Thanks for the responses.
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Fold. Pretty rare for V to have a worst hand here. Based on your read that V was competent and tired, etc., when I see this happen with a player they usually are not playing fancy, and more often than not playing their hand face up in an aggressive manner. It's a take no crab kind of attitude V has, happens when players get fed up(this can turn into tilt and poor play but it doesn't sound like V has crossed into tilt territory). Given V's range your one pair doesn't win enough to continue.
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I would fold here almost 100% of the time. Villain isn't going anywhere after you call the turn and he is probably shipping every river.