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I like just calling in this spot.

If V2 is on "winners tilt" he may call to see the river as well w/ a poor second best/third best hand.

More importantly I want V1 to lead into me w/ all his bluffs and worse A's otr.

I would be looking to raise most rivers, 2-9 for sure, J-K I'm reading villain and may lean more toward a call. My river raise sizing would be on the large side as well, hoping he can't fold any A after betting 3 times.

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07-03-2013 , 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by miamicheats

not sharing results but here a few different scenarios. i am curious how you would proceed in these spots:

1. Hero raises to XXX (somewhere between 210-250), V2 folds, V1 stuffs it in
2. Hero raises to same amount, V2 folds, V1 calls and shoves river T
3. Hero raises to same amount, V2 folds, V1 checks river T
4. Hero flats and V2 folds, V1 bets 2/3 on a Ten or below (not a 9)

1. call
2. gross fold
3. check it back, he's mostly folding or raising after the check and I don't want to have to fold to a raise, and I don't feel great about calling it off w/ 3 pairs. Basically he's never calling worse and capable of bluffing us off the best hand if we bet here.
4. I'm raising huge on 2-8, on a T, I'm folding or calling based on my read in the moment.

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07-03-2013 , 11:19 PM

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overun

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Hey Miami good to see one of your threads again from our local game!

I'm sure I know who villain is in this situation.

With what I know about his game.. I don't think you're going to make much more from him.. my best line would be to call/call.. if he checks river you can bet something silly like 1/3psb to try and get a crying call from him..he's going to put you on a good Ax a great majority of the time and his RIVER betting range should be AK+

Am really curious about how the hand turned out

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07-03-2013 , 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miamicheats

By 3b dynamic I assume you are asking about 3bettig he turn

no I mean preflop.

Like, does he think you would 3b TT or AQ...AJs..lighter than that?

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07-04-2013 , 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by miamicheats

1. Hero raises to XXX (somewhere between 210-250), V2 folds, V1 stuffs it in

Cry prob. Then fold. It depends how sticky he is post. Its not like he goes on lockdown when deep right? He views your raise at AT / 55+, as you would most likely 3b AQ / AK type hands pre.

2. Hero raises to same amount, V2 folds, V1 calls and shoves river T

Snap fold and be upset about it.

3. Hero raises to same amount, V2 folds, V1 checks river T

Value bet small & put my reading glasses on if he's able to turn AQ / AK into a bluff there. Need to know about his ability to bluff raise rivers tho

4. Hero flats and V2 folds, V1 bets 2/3 on a Ten or below (not a 9)

Maybe fold on a ten, and think about stuffing it on a card below a 9 if he get married to AK here.

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07-04-2013 , 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hand Shaker

no I mean preflop.

Like, does he think you would 3b TT or AQ...AJs..lighter than that?

He certainly would but this pot was opened by him and I flatted ip.

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07-04-2013 , 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by overun

Thanks for coming in here to post. Pretty rare strat sighting!

Interesting river line. I didn't really think of that.

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07-04-2013 , 03:31 AM

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I would usually let this go on longer but I will be without internet for 4-5 days so the thread would probably die and lose interest by the time I am back.

Hero raised to 210. V2 folded and v1 shoved.

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07-04-2013 , 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by miamicheats

did you call it off?

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07-04-2013 , 10:29 AM

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I folded and he showed AQ

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07-04-2013 , 10:54 AM

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Wow that's crazy! I can't believe he did that with AQ.. that's pretty much never getting called by worse and (usually) getting called by better

Dunno if he was doing that as a bluff or for value but an interesting play on his part either way

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07-04-2013 , 11:02 AM

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He was bluffing. He knew I was ahead and was happy when I folded. We ran the river and it was another 10 lol

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07-04-2013 , 12:03 PM

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Just lol @ villain. I still like flatting the turn.

Good luck without internet miami! Don't go crazy!

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07-04-2013 , 12:12 PM

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He was trying to bluff you off of 2p+?? Wtf he must be much better than I'd given him credit for.. I mean I knew he was probably the best player there next to diddy but that's a pretty sick bluff

On another note..Alex made a nice bluff on me also when I limp raised preflop then bet called an A77 flop.. he proceeded to shove the turn with air and made me fold my air lol

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07-04-2013 , 12:46 PM

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I don't know if you think this is the same person that it is. Are you thinking this is M? It's E.

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07-04-2013 , 01:14 PM

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overun

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Oh I thought it was e the whole time.. who's m? Only other dealer I know there is this guy named hung

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07-04-2013 , 01:26 PM

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Oh I thought it was e the whole time.. who's m? Only other dealer I know there is this guy named hung

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Okay. M used to deal there. E is solid but gets board and tilts it off too easy. Too many big leaks to win. Diddy has same types of issues. He does really good things but his leaks are too big.

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