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AT was probably the 2nd strongest hand i got dealt in the entire 3 hours, 3 bet it bet hard on flop and turn (folded out villain on turn) and kind of made the minimum compared to most other hands which quickly escalated into playing for stacks.

If you think your getting 3bet/ 4 bet light is there any scenario you could imagine ripping it in there with AT pre?[/QUOTE]

No. Side note: You are seriously going to lose a lot of money with your approach to poker. Don't say you weren't warned.

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04-06-2016 , 08:26 PM

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suited fours

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Donkament "pros" playing 1-2? You are likely overestimating their skill level. However, your wording on your AJ question suggests that you'll be in trouble. (Your only choices are fold or ship, with fold very likely the correct answer)

There are certainly scenarios where shipping AT pre would be correct, but it's typically thin when correct and if you have botched the range assessment you're gonna get slaughtered.

I'd suggest playing around with equity calculators to get a feel for what ranges you need to be facing to be jamming big aces and for an understanding of the risk when you've misjudged their range.

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04-06-2016 , 08:42 PM

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Donkmeister

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Bodybuilder what adjustments would you have made in this game?

I think everybody on here has punted a stack or two, but I also think an edge can be found at every table.

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04-06-2016 , 08:44 PM

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Donkmeister

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Thanks suited 4s

My average 1/2 2/5 game rarely sees a 4 bet that is not a shove. So having multiple hands inside an hour with 4 bets for 1/3 or 1/2 up to a stack for some of the regs was definitely out of the ordinary. On a normal day any 4 bet is pretty much going to be aces or kings. Once in a while someone frisky might light it up with AK or QQ.

This was like noon on a Tuesday with a huge waiting list for every game. Still don't think they were ninjas exactly but better than abc regs with the ability to exploit tight 3&4bet ranges of regs.

Last edited by Donkmeister; 04-06-2016 at 09:12 PM.

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04-06-2016 , 09:35 PM

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Dream Crusher

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Originally Posted by AsianNit

Tournament specialists playing LLSNL are likely going to be playing over-aggressive.

This times 1000. I personally don't like playing with tournament pros for a variety of reasons but it's not because they are profitable at cash games because they rarely are. Every player I know that follows the tournament circuit plays at least 2/5. The ones at 1/2 are most certainly staked tournament players and probably have more holes than an afghan.

In games like this just play tight and nut peddle. If you don't like it, then change tables. The vast majority of players in these tournaments are terrible..not just at cash game but at tournaments too so you are unlikely to encounter many pros, staked or not, at 1/2.

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04-06-2016 , 09:37 PM

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WereBeer

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Originally Posted by Donkmeister

Bodybuilder what adjustments would you have made in this game?

I think 'find a better game' was solid advice.

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04-07-2016 , 11:21 AM

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gobbledygeek

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Originally Posted by nicname

A lot of competitive rec players relish this sort of game, especially if it doesn't happen all that often.

I do make the mistake of assuming a strat post has an end goal of learning to make the most money, and if that's the case then the answer is obviously "table change".

But, fair enough, as others have pointed out sometimes the goal is to play in a very competitive game and to test our skills as best we can within that game. My comment was more along the lines of making sure this wasn't a misguided "move up to where they respect your raises" / "I can't win against idiots" kind of thing (as rarely is "great game" defined as how it is being here).

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04-07-2016 , 12:47 PM

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Donkmeister

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I'm a noob to 2+2 but not poker. I would normally define a great game as spring break in Miami with a bunch of drunk tourists stacking off $500 With k7. Make 5 buy ins go home and take the girlfriend to sizzler knowwhatimsaying but in this instance yes it was just a really fun game with big pots and thinking opponents.

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