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Old 01-05-2014, 06:09 PM   #1
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ACTION game

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So many villains at this table, no flop has been seen for less than a 3b ($30-45)
UTG($580), and EP1($300) are ragging everyone at the table. EP2($450) and MP1($235)+2($480) are quiet and seem like RGP. LP is TAG Hero($370) is in the CO, BTN has straddled.

6 limpers to hero

Hero QJ leads $30

BTN,UTG,EP1+2, MP1+2 and LP call

Flop ($240)

9103

checks to MP1, bets $50
LP Calls

MP, feels like A10, not sure about LP. All the other Vs seem like complete airs.

WWJD?
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:11 PM   #2
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Re: ACTION game

I do appreciate edits, if anybody wants to give me some tips to improve my posts please PM me. I want to be able to make the forum better for my contributions.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:17 PM   #3
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Re: ACTION game

Not really much to PM you here. I'd suggest taking a look at other posts and formatting it something like

Table Dynamics -

Villain 1 (brief description/History) -

Villain 2... (continue with whatever villains are in the hand and or need to be decribed)

Then post the flop/turn/river including dollar amounts up to your questions. Which it looks like you did.

As for the hand...

There's no reason to do anything but call here, there is evertything from top pair, sets, 2 pair and draws in their range. You're getting good odds to call, go ahead and put in the $50 for the call. If you bink a straight then look in to raising to play for stacks.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:24 PM   #4
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Re: ACTION game

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Old 01-05-2014, 06:36 PM   #5
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MP1 started with $235, so he's now put in 33% of his stack. Do you have any reads on his tendencies as far as commitment go? If we had a lot of room to maneuver a bluff raise could be good, but in this case he may just shrug call with AT.

On one hand, his bet sizing of 1/5th pot is pretty ******ed, but is he the kind of player that might do this to induce a raise when he holds a set or 2pr?

I don't love the preflop raise sizing. If the table has been super loose/3b happy, what happens if someone pops it to 120 from BTN or blinds? Are you planning to come along or fold? We now have a speculative hand with very little room for maneuvering/implied odds.
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:55 PM   #6
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Re: ACTION game

So, button has straddled and it's been limped around to us in the CO? I just overlimp and hope to see a cheapish flop. The table is loose so there is no way any reasonable raise is going to thin the field. I'm happy seeing a cheap multiway flop in position with a good multiway hand, and keeping our SPR skyhigh. I really dislike raising any hand at this table and would only limp/reraise premium hands. Even as played our raise size is so lol as it has no chance at thinning the field (a raise of $30 in a straddled pot with 6 limpers would be considered small at a tightish table, imo).

As played, I think this is a trivially easy shove. We only have a PSB left, so we give ourselves 2:1 to chase our OESD to the river (which is the odds we need). Plus we have overs that might be good. Plus we should have decent FE with this massive bet.

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Old 01-06-2014, 01:00 PM   #7
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Re: ACTION game

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So, button has straddled and it's been limped around to us in the CO? I just overlimp and hope to see a cheapish flop. The table is loose so there is no way any reasonable raise is going to thin the field. I'm happy seeing a cheap multiway flop in position with a good multiway hand, and keeping our SPR skyhigh. I really dislike raising any hand at this table and would only limp/reraise premium hands. Even as played our raise size is so lol as it has no chance at thinning the field (a raise of $30 in a straddled pot with 6 limpers would be considered small at a tightish table, imo).

As played, I think this is a trivially easy shove. We only have a PSB left, so we give ourselves 2:1 to chase our OESD to the river (which is the odds we need). Plus we have overs that might be good. Plus we should have decent FE with this massive bet.

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+1 on the overlimp. I'm not trying to blow up a pot with QJ at this table. If we were going HU a big portion of the time that is one thing. On the flop I shove. Gii and get there.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:20 PM   #8
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:46 PM   #9
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:57 PM   #10
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Re: ACTION game

OP - I've noticed in your two posts you have been putting Vs on exactly one hand. You need to be ranging your Vs. If you keep thinking in terms of "feels like A10" you will be leveling yourself in to making incorrect plays, be it call, fold, raise, whatever. I suggest as you read through the forum pay close attention to how Heroes are ranging their Vs. And as you sit at the table, practice ranging. Especially when you are not in the hand. I expect you will find what you feel and what is reality to vary greatly.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:23 PM   #11
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Re: ACTION game

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So, button has straddled and it's been limped around to us in the CO? I just overlimp and hope to see a cheapish flop. The table is loose so there is no way any reasonable raise is going to thin the field. I'm happy seeing a cheap multiway flop in position with a good multiway hand, and keeping our SPR skyhigh. I really dislike raising any hand at this table and would only limp/reraise premium hands. Even as played our raise size is so lol as it has no chance at thinning the field (a raise of $30 in a straddled pot with 6 limpers would be considered small at a tightish table, imo).

As played, I think this is a trivially easy shove. We only have a PSB left, so we give ourselves 2:1 to chase our OESD to the river (which is the odds we need). Plus we have overs that might be good. Plus we should have decent FE with this massive bet.

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Everything I was gonna say and more. Limp pre since no one is folding to a raise. QJs plays well multi way. As played shove now that the pot is bloated and be glad you flopped so well. If you limped just calling would be fine but...
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:18 PM   #12
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Re: ACTION game

new on the site, is their a glossary so I know what the hell the acronyms mean
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:34 PM   #13
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Re: ACTION game

grunch: Just shoving and knowing I'm likely breaking even on the EV scale. If $30 is going 14 ways to the flop then either raise bigger or limp/fold.
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:12 PM   #14
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Re: ACTION game

Spr is a whole other concept that has to do with stack to pot ratios pre flop. The lower your SPR preflop the stronger your hand should be. It's something def worth looking into. As for the rest of them you will start to figure it out the more you read and the more you post.

Edit:
PSB= pot sized bet. Mubs = monsters under the bed syndrome
OESD= open ended straight draw NFD= but flush draw
FE= fold equity
And so on....

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Old 01-06-2014, 06:20 PM   #15
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Re: ACTION game

Sounds like a table where virtually any bet would get called. You are getting a great price on your nut straight draw. Call and see the turn. No reason to get your money in before you make your straight as there is little to no fold equity here.
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