Juicy $1/2 game. A lot of straddling and double stradding, $800 stacks, and no real cardplayers (V as a possible exception) at the table.

Villian is a young guy that will play ATC especially when he's on a heater, likes to stab at pots. His normal bets are in the 1/3 to 1/2PSB. Likes to show his bluffs. Never seen him bluff raise or even semibluff raise. A lot of stabbing and betting when checked to. Has decent instincts post flop. Knows when to value bet and when to check back on the river. Super action generating player whom I love to have at my table. Stack $800plus

Hero has a TAG image. Deep also, not sure if covers.

Hero opens AA to $17 in EMP behind a bad limper, V calls on button, BB and limper calls.

($63ish) Flop 456

Checked to hero who bets $50, V calls, everyone else folds.

($161) Turn: 2

Hero checks, V bets $70, Hero calls (with a loose plan to donk non 3,7,8 rivers)

($401) River 5

Hero donks $135 (folding to a raise)?

FPS, or creative line that extracts the most when ahead, loses the least when behind?

I like it until the river. If you think you are ahead, check/call the river -- let him bluff. Then again, you say he never bluffs, so just check and fold if he bets, unless he will bet worse than AA. If he's ahead, he's never folding to your $135 and I don't know what worse he's calling with? At best, he's calling with an overpair to the 6. Also, your bet is so small and looks like a blocking bet, if he was ever to bluff raise, this is it.

He bluffs, just never bluff raising...I think...hence the small blocking/value bet on the river.

Would take a lot of heart to be able to check/fold AA here. He probably doesn't value bet 77-JJ (but maybe given my turn check?), but he bluffs a 7 for sure.

TBH, even if I had bet the turn, I would have a hard time folding to a 2/5 PSB on the river. Prob. a leak of mine.

River pot is posted 100 heavy (should be 301), not sure if that would change Javanewt's thought on your donk size.

Ap, I probably just c/c river, but your donk is a weird line so he may look you up lighter because of it.

Oops. I typically remember my bet sizes based on size of pot. I would have bet $100 on the river (1/3pot).

I can not imagine Villain calling a pf raise with something that hits 4,5,6 on the flop. I am calling any raise Villain throws out on the river with doubts I will see one. Taking a stab is one thing. Throwing away chips is something I do not see Villain doing from your description of him.

I'm thinking Villain has either a big pair, possibly A,A also, or or Ax s and hit one on the flop, hoping you have AK, etc.

I like how you played it KM. Seems better than x/c river in this spot, but hard to say, that might be ok too.

If he will bluff river, I'd rather check/call. If he will never bluff-raise, then you can bet/fold and maybe he will call you down light (but I doubt it).

"I can not imagine Villain calling a pf raise with something that hits 4,5,6 on the flop."

I see lots of players at this level call in position with 56, 67, 78 -- and even 45.

We're losing to three of those four hands.

What can we beat on the river, that will call a bet? 7's, 8's, maybe 9's. I think we would have heard form TT+ pre-flop. All the lower pairs beat us now. Straights, trips, and full houses fit V's range. And everything else is air.

A bet-fold targets like two hands, and that's it.

Your hand is basically a bluff catcher at this point. So bluff catch.

i agree with bluff catching here, but for the record i see tons of Vs call an EP raise with QQ-TT in LP

How many would be described as "super action generating" players?

If V doesn't bluff raise, b/f the turn for 1/3 pot. If you're in trouble, you find out sooner and cheaper. Mir he calls that turn bet, another 1/4 pot on river should be a good value bet against increasingly likely over pair 77+.

Against a player who stabs a lot, but doesn't bluff rather SE, you can make much smaller value bets and get thinner calls.

OP doesnt day anything about Vs ability to 3bet pre, but does mention having the ability to know when to bet a river and when to check back which implies that he's not a complete moron. someone who isnt a complete moron should know that 3betting an EP raised with TT probably isnt going to yield the best results when the EP raiser continues.

I agree. Check the river to induce a bluff. If V has something like 67 or 68 we risk him folding if we bet.

I'd bet smaller otf, you're oop $800 deep with 1 pair against the only "cardplayer," keep maneuverability at it's max.

With stacks this deep, V could call a pf raise with hands like: 66, 55, 44, 33, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s and more. Don't underestimate your opponents' willingness to call preflop raises in position with surprising holdings. Lot of good players, with eff stacks $800+, will call a $17 preflop raise with a very wide range looking to play for stacks on a lucky flop.

Those are some of the hands we're targeting with a bet, as he is quite likely to check behind. X/c is better if we think range has a lot of a7, a8 etc.

Results

It's good insight into V thinking though. Knows what to think about in that spot, but can't resist playing 93o.

Thank you for this. I am used to playing rocks and scared money. I forgot there is a different strategy for deeper stacks.