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04-22-2019 , 08:44 PM

amirsal

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 190

A 1/1 game, action is pretty average, players are mostly tight.

In this hand I have a stack of 400~ and holding Aces.

UTG limps, folds to me in MP and I raise to 7. Player on my left calls, the BTN and both blinds call. Limper folds.

Flop comes KK7 rainbow.
Pot 36.

Do I bet this board? If so, what's the correct sizing?

Hypothetically speaking, if this was 3 handed or HU, would you bet this flop? how big?

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04-22-2019 , 08:49 PM

XtraScratch8

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Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 3,578

Check/call.
Chances of someone having a King here are moderate to high.
Plus there’s very few terrible turns.
You want to have some strong check/call hands in your range on flops.
Especially with 5 players this is an easy check/call on the flop.

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04-22-2019 , 11:45 PM

twitcherroo

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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8

Agree.

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04-23-2019 , 02:09 AM

Nozsr

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,722

Raising to 7 is an engraved invitation for everyone to call and one or two of them to suck out on you.

Presumably Hero was observing prior hands and had some idea of what raise size would get one or two callers instead of four.

With a stack of 400 presumably Hero has a feel for that.

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04-23-2019 , 08:58 AM

fightingillini

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Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 313

Need to raise more preflop. $12 minimum.

Agree with others, check and call a reasonable bet. Good chance one player has a king.

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04-23-2019 , 09:09 AM

amirsal

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 190

Actually, 7 usually didn't get many callers. A bet of 5 preflop didn't get any action on multiple occasions. I can get behind betting 8-9 though.

Pot was 35 so I bet 15 to test the waters, everyone folded.
Checking would probably be better, because how stated above, there aren't many bad turn cards for me.

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04-23-2019 , 09:14 AM

fightingillini

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Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 313

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Originally Posted by amirsal

A good player would have looked at your $15 bet as "weak" and would have raised you to $60 or so.....then you're in a bad spot. As you can see, better to check and call a $20-$25 bet. Even if you bet $15 and get a caller or two, you don't really know if Vs have a pocket pair below your aces, or if they are trapping with a king.

Great that you took it down.

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04-23-2019 , 09:24 AM

tdammon

adept

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 707

I’m never betting this with more than 4 players in on the flop. Maybe with 4 I will bet occasionally but we really only fold out worse and get called by better. With fewer players I bet here to maintain an aggro image.

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04-23-2019 , 12:58 PM

DaYu

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,279

Why did you bet the flop?

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04-23-2019 , 03:09 PM

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c0rnBr34d

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,257

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Originally Posted by fightingillini

Need to raise more preflop. $12 minimum.

Agree with others, check and call a reasonable bet. Good chance one player has a king.

I just don't understand. This sounds ridiculous to me. From EP with 1 limper we are raising 12x? I've never played 1/1 but at 1/2 or 2/5 I'd expect to get zero action with this strategy until the table is conditioned and you've done this 3 or more times.

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04-23-2019 , 03:12 PM

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c0rnBr34d

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,257

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Originally Posted by amirsal

I'm fine with sizing pre. Another benefit from x/c flop is that since you are OOP you get to lose less vs Kx and win more vs weaker hands that turn a pair or think their pair may be good since you checked flop. Also the dream scenario, you turn an A and they have the K, and now stacks are in play. It's a win / win in this spot where it is multi way.

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