If Villain is that big of a spaz why not c-bet weak to induce? That way we get to play a good sized pot. I assume you can play for stacks by raising the turn instead, but I'm not really looking to play for stacks here because there aren't many villains that are going to play for stacks here without a Queen (spaz or not).

Um I prefer the check flop call turn call river line specifically because I don't expect him to bluff-raise here; if you think he can bluff-raise then it's an easy bet. However, I agree with you that it's unlikely, and OP's read makes it sound like he'll autobet after you "show weakness" by checking the flop, so exploit this tendency imo.

OP after your flop check there is literally no runout on which I would fold (maybe turn K river K lol) so the rest of the hand is irrelevant. Raise river if an A hits, otherwise call down. NH.

But then you advocated we call the turn...a $110 bet. This is not a big pot. This is a very miniscule pot. FWIW, I agree that we should call the turn.

Against this type of villain I'm comfortable getting it in with AA. Just like we don't put him on a Q he won't put us on a Q and since he thinks you don't have a Q you can't have anything so he will get it in with his 55+. He's bluffing or getting it in with worse far more often than he is showing up with a Q.

But I guess if you're worried I'd check the flop and let him bluff the next two streets.

In my image of the Villain, a turn call sets him up to make a big river bet. Of course, if you think he will call a turn raise and still put a lot of money in on the river, then of course you should raise the turn.

Not worried at all...like I said in an earlier post I basically have the nuts on the flop. If he somehow has a Q then gunna get paid.

Vill is a maniac...maybe slightly crazy but he's not an idiot in the least bit. He was crushing the rest of the table, but with two pretty solid regs to his left who were both playing deep was going to make life pretty tough on him.

That being said vill is never stacking off that much money with 55+, JJ+ he's def willing to out a lot if money into the pot. But....your forgetting the piece of the puzzle where he raised to 10 pre flop. What maniac in there right mind would raise to 10 pre with 99+? Not a single one that I have come across yet.

When I was playing the hand I thought that his range was kinda capped at 66 maybe 77 and then all non A hands, with a ton if mid/low connectors, 1 gappers, suited cards.

Back to the hand.

Hero calls

River 8s

Vill leads 175

Hero??

I like the check and bluff catch line. Normally I'm all for thin value betting but his calling range is pretty narrow, maybe only JJ kk and qx. Whereas this guy's betting range when you check back the flop is super wide.

Also dude is probably raising AQ at some point if you bet out but we don't know if he is going to raise as a bluff. A lot of even extremely aggro players do not make huge raises or bluff at 200bb pots. So that's a spot I'd rather not get into without a read.

On the flop it depends on his chr frequency and how he views you, both bet/calling and checking back have merits.

The laggier and more maniacal he is the more likely I am to bet/call, especially if he is really bad and views us as being a nit and thinks we will bet/fold the flop which means he is check/calling with all of his Q's and ch/ring all of his air.

If he check/calls the flop/turn then ships the river at us I'm folding pretty easily.

EDIT: if you check back call both streets, raising is bad because we are checking back to keep his range super wide and unless you think he is going to 3bet bluff ship the river (lol in live poker) then call and move on.

Super aggresive and maniac style do not USUALLY also mean that they bet small for value. He prob does not have a q but he will also not call a raise without having u beat. Unfortuneatly, just call

Why would you ever raise here?

If you are raising here you should have bet flop. The only thing that is calling is a stationy KK or a ******edly stubborn JJ type hand.

Results for those who care.

I called river Vill says good call and shows 45o for am missed turned straight draw.

A river one time lol