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07-30-2013 , 01:48 AM
Playing $1/$2 at the local casino 9 handed and got dealt AA UTG. Sitting on $200.

Pre Flop

I raise to $20, folded to V1 in position 7 who calls $20, and V2 OTB (position 9) also calls $20.


Flop: $63, 88T rainbow.

I lead out $40/$180, V1 in position 7 (middle age spewy) flat calls. V2 (older guy also spewy) in position 9 also flat calls.


Turn: $183, T. The board now reads 88TT.

I check ? V1 checks, V2 OTB ships $120 all-in.

Hero ?

Spoiler:
I felt that at least one of them has a T or maybe even an 8. So I folded. V1 also folds. And V2 OTB shows 99.
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07-30-2013 , 02:00 AM
Your pre raise seems way to big but guess since you got 2 callers its ok.
Flop is good always planning to get stacks in.
Turn is terrible although there are not to many T's in their hands against 2 players we prob have to fold. They could easily have called some suited broadway cards with a ten preflop since people at this stake hate to fold such nice looking hands.
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07-30-2013 , 02:31 AM
Preflop: If $20 is likely to get called in at least 1 spot, then good raise. As played things worked out well here. You set up an awesome spr for your hand.

Flop: Good sized cbet.

Turn: FML, I honestly don't know what to do here. Worst card in the deck hits, but the turn shover is "spewy" and it's only for 2/3 of the pot. The only thing I know for sure is I'm checking this turn, so I like your initial turn check. Whether to call or to fold to the shove is obv the question, and I can see a good argument for both. I suppose this comes down to how spewy the turn shover is. IDK, this spot hurts my head.
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07-30-2013 , 03:35 AM
What hands can you beat that could be in there? A bluff is it. You two showed weakness and he pounced. The other v could of easily had the trips on the flop and was waiting it out. I think a pot bet on that dryish board might have been the only way you call the turn. Double paired boards are tough. I would of even threw away an 8 on the turn if I was slow playing... but my 8 would not havecalled 20 pre.
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07-30-2013 , 11:09 AM
I think you played the hand perfectly, it was just a very unfortunate turn card.

Preflop: You have to go with your table dynamics and if $20 raises are getting called then by all means fire away. I wish I was at that table.

Flop: Soild c-bet.

Turn: Worst card in the deck hits. With both villains calling preflop and the flop you'd imagine that they connect to that board in some way, a 10 or a slow played 8 is certainly possible between the two of them. I'd like to hear more about how spewy V2 is but it sounds like a puke-fold to me. You played it fine.
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07-30-2013 , 11:38 AM
No worries...move on. Playing the hand the same way will prove profitable over time. Only time u can make that call is if u had a great read on both players.
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07-30-2013 , 11:39 AM
NH, u have to fold the best hand some % of the time

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07-30-2013 , 11:41 AM
The spoiler prevents anyone from believing a good reply here.
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07-30-2013 , 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
Preflop: If $20 is likely to get called in at least 1 spot, then good raise. As played things worked out well here. You set up an awesome spr for your hand.

Flop: Good sized cbet.

Turn: FML, I honestly don't know what to do here. Worst card in the deck hits, but the turn shover is "spewy" and it's only for 2/3 of the pot. The only thing I know for sure is I'm checking this turn, so I like your initial turn check. Whether to call or to fold to the shove is obv the question, and I can see a good argument for both. I suppose this comes down to how spewy the turn shover is. IDK, this spot hurts my head.
the problem is that we still have V1 left to act, who might very well be sitting on a ten or an eight (which i dont think hes going to fold if hes got it)... basically, we need a 2 part parlay to get there -- V2 needs to be bluffing* and V1 needs to have called otf with nothing at all (maybe some kind of float). Also note that V2 is going to be less likely to bluff here given a c-bettor and a caller.

I dont think that both of these things happening are beyond the realm of credulity, but theyre not going to both happen often enough for it to make this call worthwhile.

Its close though. I feel like if we pot this otf im calling the $100 shove into 240.

*from the results posted, i am assuming that V2 is, in fact, bluffing. This could be some kind of goofy-ass wrong headed value bet too though.
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07-30-2013 , 12:12 PM
NH well played.
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