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04-18-2019 , 04:41 AM

paratrooper99

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Hero is a MAWG. This happens early in a short session. We are 6 or 7 handed and I have adjusted accordingly but most players haven't. I am probably perceived as LAG. $350 stack.

Villain is a 30 year old white guy. He has been fairly passive. He has run $100 up to $500 by catching a gutter on one hand and check calling it down.

OTTH... 1/3 NL

Hero is UTG with AA and opens to $12.
One player calls thinking it is only $3 and folds. (dead $3 stays per Casino rules)
SB (Villain) raises to $25.
BB goes all in for $75.
Hero?

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04-18-2019 , 04:47 AM

WereBeer

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I almost never flat AA but if we flat and SB calls, pot is $75 x 3 = $225 + $3 + $4 = $232. We have $275 behind. We have position. Should be pretty easy to get it in and stack SB any time he hits top pair.

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04-18-2019 , 05:11 AM

Millnoc

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Originally Posted by WereBeer

Agreed, most players who 5x their buyin aren’t looking to gamble preflop. We have to flat.

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04-18-2019 , 05:13 AM

XtraScratch8

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Definitely flat.
Hope that he raises the flop.
Hope that the flop doesn’t have an Ace.
If he checks flop raise something like $110 to commit yourself and shove any turn.

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04-18-2019 , 06:52 AM

BackDoorFlush

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Flat.

Trivial stack off post.

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04-18-2019 , 11:10 AM

gobbledygeek

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Anything we do here will be taken as pretty strong, but I think I would mostly just flat here. A super strong 4bet risks SB enabling a hero fold of a decent hand. A flat risks SB managing to fold a bad flop with hands they potentially may have gotten it in with preflop (such as AK whiffing, or QQ on an A/K flop) but I think I'm willing to risk that. Although with him being passive and 3betting an UTG raiser I doubt a shove could be horrible either.

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04-18-2019 , 11:16 AM

DumbosTrunk

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Call, he probably has AK and will whiff or flop a K. Fish love to min-raise that hand for some reason. I doubt he's calling a jam pre with AK but will stack off if he hits top pair.

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04-18-2019 , 11:20 AM

gobbledygeek

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FWIW, if we knew he had AK we'd probably be better of jamming (my guess being AK will have a hard time folding preflop to this non-deep shove with all this dead money, and yet will be able to fold the flop when they whiff).

Git'sprobablyfairlyclose,either/orG

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04-18-2019 , 12:35 PM

CowboyCold

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Why does he have to fold on the flop? If I was in the hand he would be facing a check. If he wants to fold I'm all for it.

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04-18-2019 , 01:04 PM

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gobbledygeek

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Originally Posted by CowboyCold

Why does he have to fold on the flop? If I was in the hand he would be facing a check. If he wants to fold I'm all for it.

What I mean is that it's unlikely he'll put in more money postflop with AK if he whiffs all postflop streets / with QQ on A/K flops / etc. FWIW, I'd be fine with checking back a decent amount of flops (to perhaps induce or get a lighter stack off on the next streets).

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