V (450) MP - overly aggressive with weak hands. Seen him raise with garbage (Q3o in EP).

Hero (400) UTG, mandatory $10 straddle. Doubt V has been paying attention, but should be considered TAG.

Folds to V who limps, folds to hero who makes it $45 total with AsAd. V calls.

Flop ($94)
7h9h4s

Hero bets $50, V raises to $150.

Hero?


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Ship it

We have about $300 left.

The pot is now almost $300 after Villain's raise.

SPR is about one, are we folding?

Given our reads, he can have any two cards, but surely could have top pair.

He could have a flush draw, straight draw or both.

Or he could have two pair, but there are far fewer combinations of two pair, and even then we have outs.

If we don't shove here, against this particular villain, when will we?

Sorry you lost if that's what happened but I'm fist pump shoving every time.

I believed he could have ATC here. 98/910s, all sets, 97, and of course all draws.

I agree that folding is not an option with such a small SPR, but does a call ever have merit? If he is the type to bluff and over play his cards, I still feel like he would fold to a shove if he had 9x.

Is a call ever good here?



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Given that we want to be able to shove some draws, and only have a few sets as higher value I think this is a pretty good hand to GII with. Note that not having the Ah makes the villian slightly more likely to be drawing as well.

I'm not in love with getting it in with 1 pair playing live, but this is a decent spot for it.

based on the read you mentioned, ill ship it.

I wouldn't worry about V folding. It's only 200 more. V's just about never r/f in this spot.

Easy ship. Given description, I expect a bunch of draws to show up here, along with wacky top pairs. If he has a two pair or hit his set, that's poker.

Also, we don't really have any of his hands totally crushed (except like A9) so if he ever DOES fold, that's totally fine with me.

With a $10 straddle on I would have raised more preflop to give poorer odds to ~setmining, especially considering I doubt we'll be able to fold postflop given the resulting SPR. I would have went $60 preflop to offer poor 8:1 odds to the call. Our raise offered slightly too good (imo) odds of ~12:1.

SPR is ~4 on the flop, the board is drawy, and we're up against an aggressive player. I probably would have PSB the flop to setup a turn ship. It's possible our 1/2 PSB may have induced a spazz, but overall it probably fails too much and we simply offer too good 3:1 odds with lots of scared cards where we should feel committed. I now ship it and live with results.

ETA: If we're more worried about letting a bluffy villain wiggle off the hook, I think there might be more merit to flatting to let him hang himself if we were in position. Being OOP I think this just blows up in our face too much and he takes a free card too often.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Instaship, PH style (mandatory rant if lose ofc).

$60 raise over one limper? I do agree that it lowers odds to set mine, but then I feel like we’ve pretty much announced that we have rockets.


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Most of you have said to shove (actually I believe all). I’ve been trying to effectively figure out how to play KK+ in these kind of spots when getting raised (whether it be IP or OOP).

Generally speaking, I’m never thrilled abut facing a raise live with only one pair.

Spoil:

Hero elects to flat to let V bluff hang himself.

Turn/River
6h/Js

Turn/river go check/check.

Villain shows 910spades for top pair.

Hero is good.

Aside from the obvious shove on the flop, is this pretty standard as played?


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Analysis with the results known is always iffy, but looks like vil did not hang himself.

As played vil should have shoved on the turn, so I have nothing more to add than that.

I'm not sure how a $10 straddle game works with regard to raise sizing, but in the end is there really that much difference between $45 vs $60 regarding announcing what we have and what we end up getting called by? Dude called us with T high preflop for 11% of his stack, hardly think another ~$15 or whatever is going to make much difference to him, no?

And on the turn/river we enabled him to realize his equity for free in a pot where we feel committed, where he probably would have paid to see it a decent amount of the time (especially after raising the flop).

Gmeh,imoG

It's a well played hand, flatting flop is fine and good - jamming river is also a reasonable option.

You've got rockets playing 40 straddles effective. Not getting all the chips in the middle is bad.

I didn’t think this would get anymore attention so I posted results.

Agreed that villain should have shoved turn though. I guess that’s what I was hoping for.

Against this villain type I wanted him to put the money in himself, rather then jamming and him folding his air.



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Standard raise over a limper when there is a straddle has been 40-45 (when not the straddle). I figured being the straddle, $45 was suffice. I feel like hindsight plays a big part here when deciding to raise an extra $15.

I agree letting him realize his equity for free was a poor decision. I just had a feeling he would fold out all air to a jam, but would put it in himself on the turn. Live read gone wrong


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That's fair enough; at least you had a reason for doing what you did. My guess is the same can be said for checking the river, where you're assuming he'll shove with his busted draw versus our show of weakness.

Gagainstaggrotards,mightbejustifiableG

V’s raise OTF is never a bluff, so I’m not sure why you’re so worried about him folding if you shove. He has TP+, FD or SD almost always and is never folding.

He only raised you to “protect” against your weak cbet sizing, but would call it off anyway hoping to spike trips or 2p.

OOP, it’s a must-shove.

P.S. Were you planning to check/fold any turn cards?

If this guy raises q3 in ep, I doubt he is open limping a straddle with 99. Probably not 77 and maybe not even 44.

There's already over 4 bbs out there for the taking.

Given your description of villain it's a must ship here.