1-2 game

villain: tag. wins most showdowns. $500 stack
hero: winning image so far this session. $400 stack

villain: UTG +2 : raises to $8 (his standard open)
hero: CO: AsAc: 3bets to $25 (my standard 3bet. i've 3betted 5-6 times in the last 4 hrs which is alot of this table)

everyone folds, back to villain who 4bets to $80.

what should I do?
Villain definitely has a good hand. considering my image and the way he plays, he is not 4betting me light here. QQ+, AK. not even sure AK is in his range here.

thanks

If you think he’ll call with KK/QQ then shove, but you should have no problem getting stacks in by flatting with an SPR of 2x and position on villain.

Do a two minute chip dance, where you make two stacks of 100, put your hands behind them as if you are going to push them out, and then break them down again into smaller stacks and start the whole process over again. Do that four or five times and and make it look like you don't know what you want to do before you 5! to 185.

but shoving is not bad either.

so i reraised for $180.

He snap folds pocket KKs.

I guess at this level, no one does this without AAs.

Been thinking maybe flatting and playing post flop is the way to go. Just wanted some insight.

Please dont waste everyone's time like this. And dont 5 bet unless the guy is a complete clown. If youre going to 5 bet, shove it all in. Anything else is gonna make all but the the stupidest players fold even KK.

Clock!

Please never do this. There is a reason that fewer people are playing the pokers, and it's because of BS like this.

Even before seeing results, I see no reason to 5bet here. Flatting makes the pot $160 and we will have $320 behind. Villain is going to be betting $100 or more on any flop that doesn't have an Ace. Based on flop texture we can flat or shove the flop and stack him very easily.

If 5-betting makes even the stupidest player fold KK why are we not doing this with more hands?

Cuz most people don't have the balls to 5! A5 here which has 33% equity versus KK.

I have never 5 bet with that type of hand but have 4-bet it 4-5 times. I have also 4-bet other random hands a few times and it seems to get through more times than not.

I've been asking myself why I don't do it more often recently.

Also I can't even remember the last time someone 4-bet me. It almost never happens.

How many times do you even see a 4 bet? How many times do you see a 4 bet when both players are 200BB+ deep? Thats why we arent doing it as a bluff very often.

1) You might want to wait more than an hour to provide more information .. and certainly the 'results'.
2) In a lot of spots a shove looks weaker than a raise. This may be the case with this player, but he may be the super nitty exception. Most players can't even get to 5 fingers when they count the number of times they've folded KK PF.

3) Will this player pay you off? You certainly have a narrow range for him. It's about 30% that a K or Q hits the Flop that might scare you (or him). Can't imagine there's no value in a ten high Flop and you do have position to force the action as well.
4) Poker is about knowing your opponent and trying to extract the most value in each spot. You know more now than you did before the hand. Use this information next time. It's possible he saw something in you that led to the fold ... are you going to act (and bet) the same way with QQ? Was it him looking at you or just his own game play that led to the fold? Can we expect him to fold again?

5) With you putting him on such a narrow range .. and having that range dominated .. I think I want to flat here and see if he makes a mistake on the Flop by betting into me. Certainly results thinking here, but a 4/5 bet PF at a 1/2 table typically means the range that you are putting him on ... and most every 5/6 bet is AA/KK unless there's enough history (or stack depth) to think otherwise. GL

I don't know too many players who will snap fold KK in that spot, so I prefer a 5! pre (shove is fine, but I was thinking $210).

But, given we have position and we aren't too deep, flatting the $80 is fine as well. If/When V leads any flop, we can shove and expect him to call all but the air in his range.