Been playing 1/2 casually for awhile

AA in SB, 3 limps to me, I make it $15, 2 limpers call.

Flop 863 rainbow. I bet $30, MP raises to $60, LP folds. I call.

Turn J rainbow. I check, MP bets $100. I jam $200 total.

Thoughts?

Bigger pre, please. My general raise size at 1/2 is $8-12 depending on what is normal for that game, and then one BB per limper, plus 1 or 2 for being OOP. I like about $20 here. We need to get value, and we also want to deny set-mining odds.

As for post flop, we need to know more about MP and his likely view of you. Generally, though, a min-raise on a dry board like that is 2p+ almost always, and usually a set. Unless you have reads otherwise, this could even be a fold. If we don't fold, we;re basically calling hoping he was just making a stab because he "put us on AK," and we're folding unimproved to any significant further betting.

Turn is a c/f for a 2/3 pot bet against most Vs.

Stack sizes? Reads?

Looks to be $275 effective. I feel like a smaller flop bet is more effective. Seems like stacking off with one pair for 150 bb in a single raised pot is probably not ideal. Absent a read I think we do need to let this one go, probably on the turn, maybe even on the flop.

Everyone has their game strategy, but my policy on raising is more aggressive ... 5XBB plus the pot. I would raise to $20.

I'm not sure about the flop bet, 30? OOP, I'm looking to end the hand now and lead out 150% of the pot ... maybe $75.

OOP against 3 limpers, I'm sizing up preflop. $15 isn't terrible by any means, but I'd like closer to $20. Make it look like a squeeze.

On to the hand, this feels like a massive overplay if we're readless. Absent reads, I assume any 1/2 player is only raising with hands that can beat TPTK. Most of those hands also beat an overpair.

We can call the flop bet to see what happens on the turn and evaluating from there.

AP, I probably silently fold the turn (and *never* show). We bet big out of the SB preflop and called his flop raise, V knows we have a hand but is betting big anyways. He can beat AA *almost* always here.

If we do decide to continue, it's definitely not a ship. Just call and let him continue with any bluffs/overplays on the river.

I'm only continuing if I *know* V is capable of doing this with worse than 2-pair and have seen him do it before. If he *is* capable, let someone else figure that out for you by calling his bluffs.

Please don't do this. Why would you want to end the hand right now when you *usually* have the best hand? A dry rainbow flop where we have few sensible bluffs and a nut disadvantage is a terrible spot for an overbet. This is a trivial b/f for 3 streets to get maximum from disbelieving 8x and passive 99+.

Why are you overbetting?

+1 to the notion that "trying to end the hand now" is a huge waste of value.

This sounds like u ran into a set

I know, controversial. Steve Selbrede says the same. But it’s a drawy board and OOP. And my HOC notes say the same ... overbet OOP. I’ll try it myself Friday and see how I feel about it. But I get your point.

863r is a drawy board? I mean, it's not the driest ever, but it's not very wet either.

Further, your goal in a cash game should pretty much only be to "end the hand now" when you are bluffing (including semi-bluffs). If you likely have the best hand, you want people to call. If they are drawing, you want them to overpay for it, but you'd rather they call incorrectly than fold correctly.

I know you’re right. My usual game is uncapped and on this board, without an overbet, they’re shoving in position. I mean, why wouldn’t they? I raised pf, so they know I’m an overpair. Happens all the time.

Monsters under the bed OOP.

grunch.

6 BB + 1BB pre is my default. Dunno if it’s good or not. Usually adjusting every orbit though.

b/f postflop without reads. Against good players I’ll minraise flop bomb turn with my low SDV draws like 79, 75, 45, but most people at 1/2 just call with them and show aggression when they hit. So I think he’s heavility weighted towards a hand that beats one pair.

I ran into a turned set :/


The more I dissect the hand I'm really thinking the only worse hand that plays this way is QQ. V is an OMC and probably slows down with 1010, 99, 8x because he's "found out where he's at"

you hand looks like a big pocket pair, but our opponent doesn't care and is shoveling money in. by the turn we need to re-evaluate our hand strength, and the board hasn't done us any favors. you will be good in the small-to-medium pots with AA unimproved, but not many all-in fullstacked pots.

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