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Old 03-18-2018, 08:05 AM   #1
Richard32
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AA in the SB 1/3

Hi all,

New table no real reads just yet. Table seems a little bit tougher than a normal 1/3 table.

H: I have around $280 to start the hand.

4 people limp to the button who raises to $12

We have AA and reraise to $32 --honestly I somehow misclicked this and meant to make it 42...

EVERYONE CALLS.
$192 Flop: 1082

Should we jam this flop always for max value?
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:08 AM   #2
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

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Hi all,



Should we jam this flop always for max value?
The Only Vs calling a jam here from you with your pf play have the made flush( or less likely a set). Since you have the Ace of spades, you cannot be called by a villain hoping to hit the nut flush. You are OOP on a multiway flop- I would either c/c or c/r based on flop action.
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:33 AM   #3
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

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Hi all,

New table no real reads just yet. Table seems a little bit tougher than a normal 1/3 table.

H: I have around $280 to start the hand.

4 people limp to the button who raises to $12

We have AA and reraise to $32 --honestly I somehow misclicked this and meant to make it 42...

EVERYONE CALLS.
$192 Flop: 1082

Should we jam this flop always for max value?
Honestly, its hard to mess this one up. I dont care if you check, bet $50, bet $100 or shove or anything in between. Its all fine. There are arguments for all of that.
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:50 AM   #4
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

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Honestly, its hard to mess this one up. I dont care if you check, bet $50, bet $100 or shove or anything in between. Its all fine. There are arguments for all of that.
Sort of my thoughts here. Aside from anything that involves folding, I actually think jamming might be the worst line, but it's still good. If these are passive players, I go with bet 100 and hope to suck one of them along with a worse pair+ draw than you. If they're more aggressive, then I like the check/jam.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:49 PM   #5
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

Yeah, I like about ~$100, maybe a tad more. Calling any reraise on the flop.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:02 AM   #6
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

If you jam it looks like you have AA or KK and don’t want any draws to beat you. I made a shove in a similar spot once, everyone folded, and got comments like “That was a good shove because you don’t want to see a turn because someone might draw out on you.”

So I wouldn’t jam because that will get a lot of hands that are way behind to make the correct fold and save money. I would really like to get called by a spade that might stack off if another spade comes on the turn. I’d probably bet no more than 100 planning to shove the turn.
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:00 PM   #7
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

Yeah, I go with the original thought raise size of $42 since it gives the raiser poor ~9:1 IO whereas the misclick raise size gives much better 14:1 IO, especially since we'll never be able to fold postflop given the SPR. Ha, 6way to the flop, awesome, and standard.

I probably just shove cuz I don't know what else to do at this point with these stacks. We don't want to possibly give a free card for someone to catch up if we're good, and if we're not good, we should have lots of outs.

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Old 03-19-2018, 06:40 PM   #8
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Re: AA in the SB 1/3

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Hi all,

New table no real reads just yet. Table seems a little bit tougher than a normal 1/3 table.

H: I have around $280 to start the hand.

4 people limp to the button who raises to $12

We have AA and reraise to $32 --honestly I somehow misclicked this and meant to make it 42...

EVERYONE CALLS.
$192 Flop: 1082

Should we jam this flop always for max value?

OP, in my opinion there are two routes to take here. first, I would under-rep and C-bet a standard bet for value, most really weak pairs/draws/A highs will call and those who connected (but are most likely still weaker than you) might even raise. At which point I would re-raise and possibly shove.

the second route i would consider is a solid check-raise 3x the bet, and keep check raising until someone shoves.

I dont think your folding this hand..... I would try to maximize value before shoving.
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