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02-12-2015 , 02:44 AM
Hero ($300): Late 20s, playing TAG, neutral image. Have raised pre, and c/f gave up on a lot of boards.

V ($500): Late 20s, pretty standard, have seen him make a semi-hero call with KJ on a king high board that was paired and got scary and some guy tried to bluff him at the end of the hand. Seems to be calling too many hands but not certain. We have a flop promotion going on and he knew the odds to flop a royal was 1/690kish and claimed he's played around 300k hands in his lifetime.

Hand: 1 limper to me in the HJ with AA and I raise to $15. V calls on the BTN, and I get 3 callers total.

Flop ($60): K77

I bet $35, after checked to. V calls pretty quickly, and another short stack who is a horrible loose/passive/tilty player shoves for an additional $35 on top. I consider raise/folding here, but wanted to string along V if he had a King so I just called. Thoughts? V now announces raise and makes it $100 more additional to go.

Hero?
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02-12-2015 , 02:53 AM
Meh.
Not fun but I think I'm folding here. Expecting villain to have a 7 a large percentage of the time.
Were towards the top of our range here and V def. knows that.
Don't see him doing this with worse.
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02-12-2015 , 03:47 AM
What game is this??
1/1, 1/2, 1/3, 2/3?
So the bet is $100 into ~$270 when it gets back to hero?
And V's range is some combos of AK, A7s, and SCs that contain a 7. Sounds like you're crushed and should fold.
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02-12-2015 , 04:26 AM
V's range is overall wider, especially since he called on the button pre-flop so I can see him having a variety of hands here. If we assign him a range of A2-AJo,K9s+,KTo+,Q8s+,J7o+,T6s+ and a few lower 1-2 gappers. We can deduce that there are 61 combos that have us beat:

1 combo of 77, 4 total combos of A7, 8 total combos each of J7,T7,97,87,76,75,74

It just doesn't make much sense for V to re-raise with a king once we flat short stack's all-in on the flop, since our perceived range is pretty strong and he will only get called by worse in this spot. Plus, his flat and then 3-bet OTF is such a strong move, I fold here.
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02-12-2015 , 04:36 AM
I don't think the button would try to raise and iso you out of the hand if he did have trips on a board texture like that. If he did have trips he knows he pretty much has the nuts on a board like that and he knows you are raise calling pretty much any pocket pair in that spot so it would be pretty nitty of him to shove all his chips in on the flop losing him 2 more streets of value when his hand is almost unbeatable (if he does indeed have trips). With that being said, he is only raising there with hands like KJ KQ or AK (even though I think he is raising AK on the button pre flop with that stack and that profile) to try and fold you off hands like pocket pairs and wins the hands outright.

What was the conclusion?
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02-12-2015 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Naked
What game is this??
1/1, 1/2, 1/3, 2/3?
So the bet is $100 into ~$270 when it gets back to hero? .
Its should be 100 into 370. Any reads on the player that crai? I feel either way this has to be a fold. Only possible way we can call is if we can conclude that V1 doesn't have a 7 and we can extract value from him on later streets. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
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02-12-2015 , 04:53 AM
I m shoving. I smell smthing here. Its 50/50 at worse that villain has kx vs 7x. We r getting better odds than that. Late 20s plays a huge role in our decision making. Against any OMC, we r insta folding here.
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02-12-2015 , 06:09 AM
Call. Put your last 150 in OTT.

EZ game.
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02-12-2015 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Havax
Hero ($300): Late 20s, playing TAG, neutral image. Have raised pre, and c/f gave up on a lot of boards.

V ($500): Late 20s, pretty standard, have seen him make a semi-hero call with KJ on a king high board that was paired and got scary and some guy tried to bluff him at the end of the hand. Seems to be calling too many hands but not certain. We have a flop promotion going on and he knew the odds to flop a royal was 1/690kish and claimed he's played around 300k hands in his lifetime.

Hand: 1 limper to me in the HJ with AA and I raise to $15. V calls on the BTN, and I get 3 callers total.

Flop ($60): K77

I bet $35, after checked to. V calls pretty quickly, and another short stack who is a horrible loose/passive/tilty player shoves for an additional $35 on top. I consider raise/folding here, but wanted to string along V if he had a King so I just called. Thoughts? V now announces raise and makes it $100 more additional to go.

Hero?
Shy of running the numbers, this is a spot that is so V-dependent that it's unlikely you'll get good advice here. His actions are utterly polarizing; he could be decent or absolutely horrible.

After the hand (no matter how the hand played out), I make sure to have position on V and either avoid him entirely OR make it a point to play every pot I can against him. Need to figure out if V is chasing the promo or taking advantage of others who are chasing it.
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02-12-2015 , 01:06 PM
I shoved and he snapped with T7s. Hit quads on the turn. I really felt bad about the shove before even doing it but thought there was some frequency of him having AK here and thinking it was essentially the nuts.
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02-12-2015 , 01:17 PM
This is an example of knowing your own image. Your range is so polarized after the call of the all in bet. Tough flop.
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02-12-2015 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by roberbro23
This is an example of knowing your own image. Your range is so polarized after the call of the all in bet. Tough flop.
Anybody who would call a 7bb raise with T7 has no idea what a "range" is

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Originally Posted by Havax
I really felt bad about the shove before even doing it .
I wouldn't. Buy him a shot and reload. Don't tilt.
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02-13-2015 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Naked
What game is this??
1/1, 1/2, 1/3, 2/3?
So the bet is $100 into ~$270 when it gets back to hero?
And V's range is some combos of AK, A7s, and SCs that contain a 7. Sounds like you're crushed and should fold.
Dude stop posting nonsense on threads lol
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