If that is the best 1/3 player in that room I would love to play there.

Gg,


Is that serious or a joke?

He limp reraises them.

Yeah, super easy limp/reraise for me.

The shorter we are the less we care about being OOP to a good player in a bloated pot (and might actually be totally fine with it if we can setup a small SPR). But deeper we have to be very careful about building pots OOP to good players, so I would always take good notice of who is in LP before raising. I booked a 12 hour session last time out and the biggest hand of the session (which I lost to create a ~breakeven session) was all due to me building a bloated pot OOP to the best player at the table on the Button non-shortstacked.

The more superior in skill you feel you are relative to your opponents, the less you will care about this.

GcluelessNLnoobG

This.

Gg,

I figure why even bother playing poker if you’re going to have an attitude like that, especially in a 1-3 game.

I have zero clue what this means?

GcluelessNLnoobG

Gg,

It’s 175BB at 1-3 and you have AA. Open like normal and play some poker.

What other hands are you limp-reraising with?

An "open like normal" at my typical table means I see a flop 5-7 ways, OOP, with some good players having position on me, deep. As I've always said, if this is the result you're happy with, that's fine by me, but it gives me fits so I do something different.

In these cases I usually have a ~0% opening range in ~EP+ and simply evaluate who is doing the raising / who is doing the calling / how many callers / stack sizes involved / etc. and make my decision on how wide I limp/reraise vs flat.

If you're comfortable with a different strategy, that's fine. Hardly think how having a different one means we shouldn't bother playing poker?

GcluelessNLnoobG

Gg,

Why not increase your standard open raise amount?

Because as I've always argued, anything "reasonable" has no affect on the number of callers you get.

In my last 3 sessions, I've had far and away the tightest nit image at the table. A couple examples off the top of my head: (a) after two limpers a $25 raise (8x) has gone 7ways at least twice and (b) a $35 raise after two limpers (a mere 12x) go 5ways. Of course, I've also had very reasonable raises also take down the pot preflop as well. OOP, we have *zero* clue what raise size (if any) will narrow the field as we don't have any information that will help us out in that regards.

GcluelessNLnoobG

1) you need to redefine reasonable in their terms not yours

2) stop raising from the blinds with crap like AJ etc. and you won't be in bloated pots out of position.

As I said, I just noted an example where I raised to $35 (a mere 12x at a 1/3 table) and got 4 callers. Are you suggesting I should open to $50 to steal the $4 in blinds?

And of course I'm not opening crap like AJo/etc. from OOP/blinds at tables like these. Still, even with hands like AA you're going to get yourself into some pretty gross situations very multiway OOP "deep" (which really becomes shallow extremely quickly when big raises go very multiway) with a difficult player or two in the mix (but, as I've always said, if you relish these spots, go for it).

GcluelessNLnoobG

Since your entire philosophy about poker revolves around avoiding difficult decisions why don’t you just play short-stacked? I know somebody who buys in for 40BB at the 2/5 games and is pretty successful.

not to derail OP BUT

you stated 2 limpers so pot = $10

1) game selection, I love games like you describe but they are not for everyone, very high variance.

2) is everyone getting called by 5 players when they raise to $35 or just you ?
might be your image!

3) do these callers just like to see a flop then play fit or fold ?

4)if 3 then open $45 and shove flops you like collect your $200 and pass go.

It's taken me a long time, but as the game has changed (especially with regards to being less payoffy postflop for lesser IO overall) I've slowly realized the benefits of shortstacking (and is why I now consistently top up my stack to a shortstack of 66bbs instead of the 100bbs which I was doing in the past). Plus this whole method fits a lot better in my wheelhouse / area of comfortableness.

G/derail,imoG

Poker is dead guys, everyone solid!

With much respect for your very limpy and successful exploit strategy, I will only add this for your consideration:

Playing with a 66BB stack should keep you comfy in most multiway pots, raised or limped. Further, raising *too much* encourages gambling, which you should welcome, but if not then stop doing that. 5x or 6x UTG open raise sizing should get you some nice SPR spots when called by multiple callers, or should get you 3-ways or heads-up often enough to have plenty of room to operate.

Then go for the "unreasonable". Raise the amount that gets one or two noobs on board. Doesn't matter if it is strictly QQ+ you do it with if they don't care.

Gobbledygeek gonna gobbledygeek.

Not that this isn't an interesting discussion, but fwiw, I have seen GG's strategy/tactics debated to death in a # of other threads already. Maybe it's of help to OP, idk, but feels to me like we're going off the rails into already well-documented territory.

Ok so since there is nothing I do to change that we can all (except for him of course) just agree he's wrong and move on?

Some people see merit in it. Most of us don't. But he's a solid winner over a big sample @ 1/3, wrong or not. @ 2/5 I'm sure it would fall apart quite a bit, and he would even admit to that. Personally I've always enjoyed GG's focus on SPR, and his overall game awareness, etc. even if I don't employ a preflop/postflop game like his.

Anyway, wasn't picking on you. Just sort of noticed TT heading in a direction many of us are already familiar with. But people can discuss w/e they want as long as it's still pertaining to ops conondrum, obviously.

Yeah, I don't want to derail OP's thread any further either, since his main question is what to do once he sees the action he does.

But I just want to make it absolutely clear to OP that his initial decision (I haz AA, I raz) *may* not be nearly as clearcut as he thinks it is.

G/derailG