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Originally Posted by Reubenr676
The pot is around 90 right now and would be 120 if I called. This would give the other two villains a pretty good price to see a flop.
Therefore I do not like the calling option. Is this an easy min raise to 90, shove, or somewhere in between?
Grunching:
V2 & V3 absolutely do not have odds to call. They need to pay another 30 which is roughly 10% of the pot + your remaining stack. You want these guys to come along. Chances are you will stack one or maybe two of them. Maybe one flops a set and stacks you, but it worth the risk given stack sizes. You want to flat V1's 3-bet and let them come along.
V1 - you put him on 10's+ and I presume AK. This seems wide given description, but it true it provides another reason to flat.
KK's (6 combo) will call every time if you 4-bet 100 -120. QQ's (6 combo) is 50/50 I think. JJ's (6 combo) and 10's (6 combo) are folding. AK (9 combo) is folding. Your 4-bet will fold out more than 70% of his range, and you want him in, thinking he's ahead.
I think QQ+ and discounted AK is a more realistic 3-bet range given V's description. A little more than half of this will call your 4-bet. AK won't like the flop 3/4 of time given your blockers, and QQ's won't like flop 1/4 of time. Occasionally, he'll flop a monster and stack you. If his range is tigher, and the V's weren't involved, I would go ahead and bet 100.
I don't see the point in min-betting. It'll make you look stronger not weaker and make it marginally more difficult to GII post.