Hi all,

You open AdAs UTG to $30 (larger because blinds include SB, seems quite degen/strung out from what you've seen so far) SB calls, says something about "he might have AA, I should just call" (lol), $1,500 eff. SB has opened jammed BvB with 33 for over $1k and just seems . . . off.

Flop JT4ddd and he check-raises your $40 flop bet to $200. Wwyd with the best OP and the nfd here at these stack depths in a single-raised pot against this player?

Thanks,
DT

Flop is situation is messy. This flops connects well with the sort of range villain might call with out of SB knowing it's probably going to be heads up. But some of those hands are AJ/QJ type hands that are not ahead and villain can easily be doing this with hands that are ahead and behind. Both hands like QdJx/QdQh and JJ/JT might play like this.

Despite the large open your in a don't go broke with one pair situation. Take advantage of the fact that you have position. Flat call and see what villain does on the turn. Try to keep the pot small unless the turn is a diamond. Plan to check behind or flat call.

If villain is really strung out and spewing off money then consider a bet/raise on the turn. Villain has to be really bad before committing entire stack in this situation is the best option. You have to figure villain for a lot of hands with one diamond and that he is willing to call a big bet on the turn with those hands.

Oh I should mention he GII for $500 pre BTN v. BB with A7s too, so as with the 33 hand at least pre he is happy to gamble. And local pro seat changed to get position on this V, kinda bum-hunty but whatever.

ok let’s say he plays all of his sets and JT like this, 2 combos QQ, 2 combos AJ and then he has suited 3 gappers 63s+ 43s+ etc for flushes. In that case we have 44% equity on the flop. This ignores any naked Kd bluff or random spazz. 2 combos QQ and AJ might be too much but the random spazz should balance that out.

I don’t wanna turn my hand into a bluff/mergey type 3 bet here when we are either ahead, or he has a hand he’s never folding (except maybe we can fold JT). I think our hand plays well as a just call and plan to call all turn sizings under 3/4 pot on brick turn cards and then decide River. Vs a big turn sizing it’s time to soul read and determine if he would bet one pair like this for protection.

If you think his preflop speech is honest, that weights him more to hands like TT-QQ and takes a ton of flushes out of his range. I wouldn’t completely discount small flushes, but I would personally take a few combos out of his range based on the speech.

If he gave this speech, believed it, and then raised on like 472 we could consider value jam but he just has too many sets here for us to value jam.

We should be checking or betting small here imo, regardless of who V is. Even if V has no idea what he’s doing, he might end up exploiting us properly by just happening to x/r us aggressively like he should be. We never know. We’re not worried about them spazzing out vs downbet as we can just react accordingly with our different hand classes.

AP calling down seem good imo vs this player type at this SPR IP.

Some might say GII to realize our equity before a diamond kills the action. Is this reasonable?

Maybe with this exact hand but once again, even if V doesn’t know what they’re doing— it’s still inherently beneficial to our overall strategy to keep some of our strongest hands in a calling range.

That way, whenever you have a hand like AJs no diamond here and V decides to go bonkers on turn & river, you can fold and sleep well knowing you’ll also have AA and KK.. unblocking top pears.

Against sets & flopped flushes, you are around 30-35% to win if you GII on the flop, you're flipping against flopped 2pairs and you absolutely crush any XdXx hand. Probably not that much fold equity with raising the $200 and only hands that beat you call/bluffs will fold IMO.

I'd go into check calling mode and hope V is bluffing and continues to bluff, people love repping monotone boards with garbo. Diamond on the turn would be beautiful.

Also, with V referring that you might have AA, I wouldn't be surprised if he had QdQx/KQs/JJ

I bet flop $20, and this seems like a super standard call

Not when your that deep. At $500 effective that makes sense, at $1500 it doesn't. Once you are really deep shoving this flop just limits villain to sets and the occasional combo draw. Those hands make up only a small portion of villain's range but you lose so much when villain does have one that it ends up -EV.

Those 33 and A7s hands are incredible. He just wants to gii with anything. We should let him by making it 600 or even jamming. Not like he’s gonna fold KdTx or whatever garbage he’s ready to “flip” with

Phew ... when I saw you posted, I thought, if you also said call/evaluate, I was going to quit poker forever.

Results: I pretty much snap jammed, and was very happy with it. Ranges are not that narrow against degen gamboolers, ya’ll. Alas he flopped a k-high flush (K8dd) and I was only 30%. So maybe they are that narrow? Lol.

Man, jam here is super spew. Yikes.

Also don’t bum hunt, it’s bad for the long term health of the game. If you did that seat change thing in my game, all the regs would give you major side eye.

He didn't. And don't care about what reg-fish think. I agree about seat changing anyway.

+1. Stuffing 300 bb’s in here is definitely a mistake, even against this guy.

I was referring to reg pros in the game who would be ticked off if a tight player like Dumbo made a point of seat-changing to the left of a whale.

We shouldn’t care what they think either but the point of my post was just to say that Dumbo didn’t do what you’re accusing him of. Unless he’s talking about himself in the third person, “a local pro” is the predatory bum hunter. Not that it’s a bad thing to call out bum hunters, but Dumbo doesn’t deserve that rep AFAIK.

This isn’t directed at anyone specifically, but nit regs are basically a living rakebox. Nobody really wants them there, including themselves lol.

Really aggro players like them though I guess because they make the game more short handed with their lack of involvement. But even then that’s only with a few huge spots in the mix.

I didn't seat change, it was someone else. I agree it's a bad look. Thanks for the feedback ya'll! I am used to short-stacking, probably part of the problem this hand since almost everyone seems to think call is best.