Table: 1/2 Friday afternoon. 9 handed.

Hero: I've been super agressive at the table. I've raised at least 10 times in the hour that I've been at the table. I've won a few big pots without showdown, and I've 3! two times so far, one IP, one OOP. Neither went to show down. One didn't get called pre flop, the other I barreled the flop and gave up on the turn when it was still 3 way on a 10 high 2 flush board. I've been here for about an hour or so. Bought in for $350, sitting on $450 at the moment. (Covers)

V1: Seems like he's almost decent. Knows what he should do in a lot of situations (he talks to him self quietly saying things like "You should fold here, it's not a good spot" and sometimes listens to his own advice) but he's not there yet. Calls too much pre flop. Will chase draws, but not for too high of a price. ($265)

V2: Calls a lot pre flop as well. Likes to chase draws, but not overly agressive with them so far. He's only been at the table for 30 minutes to so, so it's hard to get a great read on him. He seem like an educated gambler. Knows about pot odds, knows how to count outs and figure his chances but he doesn't play the right hands, and doesn't make the right folds even if he thinks that he's behind. ($195)

Pre:
Hero raises UTG to $15 with AA
V1 thinks for a few seconds, almost cuts out chips for a 3! and eventually just calls.
V2 calls

Flop ($42): 456
Hero bets $35
V1 raises to $70
V2 tanks for a while and flats
Hero ships all in ($215 effective)

Thoughts?

I think a flopped 2 pair, set or straight lets you know with more than a min raise. I'm thinking over-pairs to the board and draws from the 2 Villains. However, something I've noticed at $1-$2 is that many players tend to be cautious with sets on straight boards, so I'd consider that V1 might have flopped his set but is scared of a straight (even though it's highly unlikely anyone flopped one) so the min raise might be just for info.

Your flop bet was super strong and yet got raised - I'd think the raiser is the one to be concerned about, not the flatter on this board. Still, since V1 almost 3 bet pre, I'm leaning towards him having an over-pair to the board and V2 having a FD or straight draw, so I think you're ship is good.

Get it in.

Villain 1's preflop action is indicative of a mid-high PP or AK/AQ (unless he's sick enough to give off some sort of reverse tell, and given the fact that he's ****ING TALKING ABOUT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS OUT LOUD, I doubt that's the case). His minraise on a board that wet tells me he has a one pair hand that wants protection (QQ-88, maybe just QQ-TT). If he has AcKc I think he raises bigger, but we'll add that to his range.

Villain 2 has a draw here very often. If he had a set/straight I think he shoves for protection unless he has the deck crushed with like 8c7c. More likely his range is something like 88, 77, 33, AcKc-Ac8c, KcQc, QcJc, JcTc, Tc9c and we'll throw in 3 combinations of sets just in case (so 55 too).

The equity looks something like Hero ~50%, Villain 1 ~11%, Villain 2 ~38%.

We are risking $215 to win $217. The dream would be to get V1 to call and for V2 to fold but that'd be too good to be true.

What time Friday afternoon? 2pm vs 6pm makes a lot of difference in the play of the table.
So, what are these guys calling a raise from the first person to act pre-flop? pocket pairs, two broadway MAYBE, suited connectors, suited aces, seems pretty logical, at least in one of the hands. V2 can be thinking "pot odds" and joining in for giggles.

Now, the flop comes. V1 isn't raising with two broadway cards. His range narrows to an overpair, a flopped set, straight, 2 pair, and a flush draw shouldn't be raising here. He also has a pair with an OESD for a semi-bluff maybe or a pair with a flush draw MAYBE. It looks like he's raising either for value or to see where he's at. However, $70 is a lot to put in for "information".

When v2 flats, he's either a) hoping for a squeeze or b) on a draw and scared of the squeeze. You've gained no information.

With $45+35+70, he's getting odds to chase a flush or straight. He does have to worry about you acting behind him though. The question becomes whether v2 was tanking about call vs fold or call vs raise. It's an unknown at this point.

So, let's look at your options on the flop after v2 flats.
1. Call -- you've gained no information.
2. Min-raise -- (in for $70, what's another $35?). You've gained no information.
3. Shove -- You're either way ahead or way behind and you're about to find out which.

You have no re-draw to the flush. You have runner-runner to beat the straight or flush. You're on a draw for 2 pair.

None of the options are extremely appealing. #1 -seems- like the best option, but you can't lead the turn if a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or club appears. That's over half the deck and you're STILL losing to a flopped set, straight, and most 2 pair.

#1 is the worst option. Half of the turn cards force you to check and give up on the hand. The other half of the deck still has you behind a decent percentage of V1's perceived range and perhaps 30-50% of v2's perceived range.

#2 is lighting money on fire. You aren't "calling for value" here.

#3 is simply "shove and pray". You've "invested " $50 into this pot. You're risking $215 now to win $220. You can get called correctly by both villains, even if they are on draws as the betting is over, and they're getting 2:1 on their money. You're either going to win big or lose big here. The only thing that should fold here is a bluff and V2 doesn't have a bluff and V1 shouldn't even ATTEMPT a bluff here. Short of one of them having a high pocket pair and finding a fold, you're playing an $850 pot here. Are you good 25% of the time (on the flop, obviously, the draws are the draws and may hit no matter what)?

So, in this situation, I have to think that you're going to win at least 1 time out of 4 with identical criteria, so shove if you're willing to gamble. The odds make it the right move, IMHO, but understand that you ONLY have to win 25% of the time for this to be correct. You will lose your entire stack up to 3 out of 4 times and STILL have made the correct move.

You posted the hand, so clearly, you lost. However, I think it was the right move if you can stand the variance. If you can't stand the variance, fold.

Imagine at the empty table in the corner, there is $600 on the table and you're tossing a 4 sided die (pretend), do you toss your $200 in? How about 3-sided? You're somewhere between the two in my estimation (actually, I'm putting your chances at 25-40%), but I can't find a 5-sided die which lands on two numbers simultaneously.

You might consider this a "gamble", but as long as your odds to win beat your pot odds, it's +EV, even if you're <50% to win.

I probably fold when V2 flats the min raise. Sure he could just have a draw sometimes but this is often a nut hand that could have you drawing nearly dead. If you call flop there are a ton of bad turn cards against two Vs. I don't hate shoving with only 215 behind though. Could go either way I guess.

With stack sizes I guess you could shove here. You are trying fade cards or behind with maybe only 1 out here to V2 ... V1 is probably an overpair with the PF non-3bet description.

This could go either way, but I think you are only break even here even going to Turn 3-way or even with the dead money in there with one caller. This is a good way to ruin a well built stack sometimes. GL